Schiit Vidar Impression Thread - UPDATED WITH REVIEW (CHECK FIRST POST)

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  1. rlow

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    You're likely good with one unless you have a very large room and/or prefer insane volumes. What's the rated impedance? Also do you have a true balanced output preamp like Freya (required to run Vidar as monoblock)?
     
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    Impedance is 8 Ohm and they're rated for 50-300W. Not a large room, just normal and no insane levels.

    Nope, I don't have a Freya or other balanced preamp but I'm looking to get into Schiit.

    Something like Freya/Vidar/Mjolnir.
    Was doubting about Ragnarok with a Vidar instead of the Freya/Mjolnir at first and use the speaker outs of the Ragnarok for a pair of bookshelf speakers but I think I like the versatility of the Freya/Mjolnir system more with the three gain stages and SS/Tube option of the Mjolnir. Also, they're separates.
     
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    I have Freya/Vidar/Mjolnir 2 and it is a versatile setup. I run Elac B6’s (87db 6 ohm) and the single Vidar drives the hell out of them. The Freya in tube mode is like a high-gain switch as well. If you are going after high sensitivity speakers, I would get Saga instead.
     
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    Should be ample for my speakers then, thanks!
     
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    Definitely - some folks with very high sensitivity speakers (e.g. 93db+) have reported too much gain from the Freya/Vidar combo (especially in tube gain mode), but I don't believe you'll have that issue especially since most speakers end up actually measuring out 1-3db below their rating (some even more so).
     
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    It's not so much there is too much gain as you have to be very selective with tubes as any noise from the tubes is amplified. I actually like the gain I get from Freya in tube gain mode with the amp I have as it puts the volume setting right in the middle of the range at my normal listening levels. This allows for enough amplifier power headroom when I am listening to tracks with 21dB of dynamic range.

    Saga would clearly be a better choice if you don't need balanced connecters or the gain.
     
  7. AppleheadMay

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    Probably not going to get much response here to this question since Marantz isn’t much discussed but I’ll ask it anyway.
    Does anyone have an idea if Freya/Vidar combo would outperform a Marantz PM-11 S3 at half the price?
    Anyone heard the Marantz premium Series? I have the PM-11 by the way.
     
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    Been looking at the Vidar. I am new to this learning. Planning to get a Kef R500 to match with a vidar but the specs seems that thd Vidar provide only half the max watts the Kef R500 can take.

    If i use two Vidars, it might be too much for thd Kef R500.

    Any thoughts? Are my assumptions correct?
     
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    I kind of doubt you will have to use all 100 watts of a single Vidar 100% of the time unless your room is the size of a gym. However, the Kefs are low sensitivity so 2 Vidars will provide more headroom for those dynamic swings. Don't worry about the "too much power" thing, thats never a real concern with speakers, the amp will only provide as much power as is called for. With those speakers and in a normal size room you will probably use way less than 75~100 watts the vast majority of the time, if not 100%.

    Depending on your room size, I think you could get away with one Vidar, but the Vidar Monos might be a great match for low sensitivity 8 ohm speakers.
     
  10. BeyerMonster

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    I'm thinking of doing this. I've got a pair of bi-amped Maggie 3.6s (custom built active xover to replicate original passive xover).

    Actualy also llooking to run a Magnepan tri-center with a CCR and a pair of MMC2 for tri-center usage, so maybe I'll try a 3rd Vidar.
     
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    I have a stock pair of 3.6r with another 2 vidar coming to do this as well, i already have 1, so ill have 3 in total to play with, thinking of going the biamp route like Marvey says for L,R. I have mmc2 center with a dwm bass panel, 3 matching amps in LCR should be interesting. Even with just one just Vidar for L,R, the bass and clarity is much better than my B&K reference 200.7. The B&K has been powering the center and 2 Mini Maggie satellite rears, not super ideal, would prefer a slightly bigger panel, but there's the whole WAF factor I have to appease, the minis do an adequate job. I already had to give up my SVS PB12/Plus 2 lol, oh well, maybe there's a JTR Captivator S1 in my future.
     
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    Just FYI. Vidar is experiencing production problems. Even orders that were placed last week when they were "in stock" are delayed for "a few weeks." They aren't notifying existing orders unless you ask. They did update the "Avaliablity" on their website though not until after the fact.
     
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    No, Vidars are simply out of stock. They'll be back in stock in a while. We have more than one thing out of stock, they lost to Magni 3.
     
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    Might want to tell Customer Service that or update the form response.

    Hello XXXX,

    Thank you for the order and we are sorry for the delay. The Vidar are experiencing an unexpected production delay that has postponed availability. Based on current part projections, we estimate resuming shipping in the upcoming few weeks.

    XXXXXX

    Schiit Audio
    Customer Service

    Also they became listed as "out of stock" on Wednesday... Three business days after I placed my order that was to ship in 1-3 days.

    It's all good. I'll wait, just making sure that others who may have placed orders while the VIdar was "in stock" know.
     
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    Considering Schiit has both an e-commence store and a B/M, I’d imagine it would be difficult to manage communicating “live-stock” status when sales could happen at either concurrently.

    Maybe the response should say:

    Hello XXX,

    Our apologies for the delay. We are working as quickly as possible to complete your order.

    Schiit happens. :)

    XXXXXX

    schiit, CS
     
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    Does anyone have an opinion on how a Vidar would go powering evolution acoustics MicroOne monitors? I don’t know too much about speakers but there’s a pair of these monitors on sale locally for a steal and they’re well reviewed. Unfortunately everyone recommends dartzeel amps and they’re a bit out of range haha. @shaizada @SineDave
     
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    Frankly speaking, there is no way to simply "predict" how one amp and speaker pairing MIGHT perform in ones given system.
    The Evolution Acoustics Micro One monitors have sounded absolutely mind blowing with Dartzeel electronics, but that does not mean they won't perform well with other electronics.

    The only way to know is to try those pieces out. The Vidar will have no problem powering the speakers, and if you need to tweak the sound to your liking in your listening environment, play around with a tube preamp. You can then try different tubes, different cables, vibration control (all things that I can personally attest to making a difference to the sound) to get what you would look forward to listening to. The flexibility with a tube preamp in a system like that would be welcome. Of course, source matters as well.

    I think one has to have SOME kind of reference point, and the one you are establishing can really be excellent. You move around from there till you find what hits the spot for you.
     
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    I played mine with the MMMicroOnes and it was a solid pairing. I didn't run them with a bunch of other stuff, but the Vidar was certainly enjoyable. You should be happy.
     
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    Upgrade to the MMMm2. Comes with extra stuff so you don't have to worry about amps.
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    Does it come with the speakers as well?
     

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