Kr4star is a butt and PacoTaco gets discounts on review gear

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  1. k4rstar

    k4rstar Britney fan club president

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    Lovely cut-and-pasted Reddit-tier review.
    Hahahaha, you have zero concept of value as you review this headphone for free with gear you are not familiar with and then get a special discount for shilling it, like you did with the terrible Eikon before selling it for more than you bought it for.
     
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    Edit: I edited out my response. This isn't the time or place for high-schiol drama. I'm too old for this shit baiting now.
     
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    k4rstar Britney fan club president

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    I did have the misfortune of reading your "review" and then gagging a little as it reads like something that should be featured on the front page of Head-Fi. I will continue to call out pathetic shilling from literal mouth breathers like you until it stops or I get banned for it.
     
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    To save myself from getting into an argument with the man who plays second fiddle to Psalm, I wish you have a good life and eventually gain some maturity instead of wasting your life being a hateful doppelganger.
     
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    Jesus f'ing christ, what the hell has happened to this site? How much longer are the trolls going to run the place before someone gets a clue to drop the hammer.
     
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    Yeah, what HAS happened to this site? Unapologetic, insincere lo-fi shills writing trashcan reviews that don't describe sound in any useful capacity in exchange for undisclosed discounts on their purchases. God forbid someone call them out on it.
     
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    Do you have proof of the shilling for discounts?
     
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    zach915m MOT: ZMF Headphones

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    I do want to address this as there is a fairly standard practice in the industry and I do abide by it. When we send out review units I specifically tell the reviewer that they can keep the review unit for x amount of time, I provide a return label or pay for the return shipping, and tell them after the review if they end up wanting to keep the headphone or buy a unit we can discuss it after the review and only after the review. Then when it is discussed every reviewer gets the same discount.

    I simply do not, and never have sent review inquires out to people telling them to write positive reviews for us for a discount. As you can imagine we often get review inquiries and sometimes they say "just so you know we keep the headphone to compare for future reviews." I know off the bat these reviewers are looking for free gear, and I simply either ignore them or tell them that that's not our practice.

    Sorry to interject here. I'll let you all get back to it.
     
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    I'm going to say he doesn't. He harasses Zach and I on discord all the time. He's been doing this for a good year, but this is the first time he's ever made an accusation to dig at Zach's business.

    Hell, if I hated the Auteur and reflected that in my review, he would have aaid the same thing. He isn't here for high-effort trolling/harrassment.
     
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    Zach offered me a million dollars if I gave his headphone a good review.
     
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    f**k, I need to work on my negotiation skills.
     
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    Assholes circlejerking in discord echo chambers while taking this hobby and themselves way more seriously than they are. Standard stuff really.
     
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    Discord actually has an ongoing issue where toxic elements fleeing more moderated platforms are finding a cosy home there. We've probably had our own baby version of that.

    Discord have had a few crackdowns, but obviously it's a game of whackamole. They don't intrude unless stuff gets actively reported- and they had some pretty unsavoury people to deal with. Hives of scum and villainy come in different sizes and strengths.

    Back on topic, but can we talk the Eikon down enough that someone feels the need to replace it with the Auteur, so I can pick one up second hand? Really easy on the ears, just a bit steep for what would be office cans.. (ahem)
     
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    Zach is free to offer whatever he wants. We respect that. His practice of offering discounts to reviewers who already have a piece of gear at his discretion after the review is posted is totally fine, especially if it helps his business.

    However, @kr4star did send me proof of you talking over and over about your discount. Additionally, your review was originally missing any relevant details like upstream gear, how you compared, what music you used maybe, measurements if you had them, etc. Combined with you talking about how you wish your reviewer discount covered other cans, I can see where he interpreted this as shilling for discounts (even if that was not your intention).

    My verdict: @kr4star is a dick and should have kept it out of this thread and @PacoTaco wrote a review that was light on substance and gets a discount on reviewed headphones.

    Moving the noise to it's own thread.
     
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    PS after 260+ posts, get a freaking avatar dude, i reccomend Zero's fav method. Google Image search user name and funniest pic on top line wins.

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    Temporary avatar set. Fuckin wonderful.
     
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    Fair enough. On the upstream gear, that may be because I originally posted the review as an entire piece of three separate items, so it was implied to be Magni3/Modi Multibit and Amethyst/Kenzie when it was the Kenzie - Amethyst - Auteur review (as well as hearing it side-by-side with the HD800, HD580, Eikon, ect.) In my laziness, I didn't go back and edit in that I had used those as the gear, which is my error. I don't usually add the music in because I don't want to sound too head-fi-y, but, upon rereading, I realized that I did just that.

    I'll just rewrite the review (editing the existing post, of course,) to better articulate some of those points. I will admit, I fucked up and pushed out a review faster than I should have. What I wrote was more of a set of impressions than an actual review, and I apologize for that. I've been a member long enough to know what effort I should actually put into a review, and I failed to do that.

    Temporary? I may as well just keep this one. Thanks Josh.
     
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    I’m curious though, there seems to be more “sponsored” reviews going on. Would it be more transparent (and appreciated) if those who are new to posting formal reviews after receiving gear individually from MOTs stated it in a financial disclosures section in the review? A lot of people, including myself, come here to read honest reviews and comments about gear. It is just a little odd when people post full-on reviews without a lot of context and with potentially suspect motivations. I think despite the trolling and being dick-ish there is some substance to @k4rstar comments. However, I like to read what Friends like @PacoTaco post, I would just like to have all the information presented upfront.
     
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    IMO anyone in any way connected to the product in any capacity shouldn't be able to post reviews of it here. Post on your blog, website, whatever, and link here sure, but no more. If you have any relationship, or are sought out by the product manufacturer or seek out the product manufacturer, even in a general way as a 'hobbyist reviewer' or whatever the f**k justification you would care to offer, you don't get to spout about it here. Be your own brand for f**k's sake.
     
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