1. Galm

    Galm Still looking for Little Red Riding Hood

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    The 3GB versions are different chips. Like they really should be called a 1055 Ti or something. The CUDA core count is 1152 instead of 1280 while the clockspeed is the same. Not to mention I would not recommend buying a new gpu with 3GB of vram at that price.
     
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    Grahad2 Red eyes from too much anime

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    The entire industry moving towards just marketing now. See: 7nm announcement from GF/Samsung etc.

    Amazing how far things have come considering that
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    I need a shittier GPU. Just something that works. Don't care about eye candy. I have a GTX 670 on my other computer. More than happy with it.

    So far this:

    Ryzen 5 1600
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    RAM: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8

    I have that Coolmaster Nvidia case with 4 big fans on the side and mobo plate that can be flipped to either side. Do you think I will need a new PSU? The PSU I have worked with an old Quad Core and a Nvidia GPU with two plugs into it. Not sure if stuff is more efficient now, or still requires stupid power.
     
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    Galm Still looking for Little Red Riding Hood

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    Don't get me started. Gaming laptops are my area of expertise, and Nvidia Max Q gpus are the epitomy of marketing bullshit. They're taking say a 1070, putting it in a chassis that's way too thin, undervolting and downclocking it heavily to probably 1060 levels, and selling it for more than a normal 1070 laptop... The GS63VR 1070 Max Q starts at 2400 dollars now and it'll barely beat a 1400 dollar 1060 machine...

    @Marvey Lower 460/560 or a 1050/1050 Ti should be more than enough. If you really aren't doing anything gpu intensive just grab like a 1050. Here's a good priced one:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MG0733A?pldnSite=1
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    I like the price. Probably better than this GTX 670 I have. The GPU stuff is all so confusing. I think they are scamming us.
     
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    Should be, not a big jump tbh, but it's faster.

    Edit: I wouldn't overly recommend it though like Grahad said below.
     
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    Grahad2 Red eyes from too much anime

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    GTX670 is so close to 1050 Ti I don't recommend it. You'd want at least a 10% FPS jump. Otherwise I recommend sticking with the 670.
     
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    What's the wattage of the PSU? I'm sure what you have will do fine with the 1600, Ryzen in general is very power efficient especially in the frequency ranges of the 1600 and 1700 (peak efficiency at 3.3GHz)
     
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    The only game I play is Overwatch, which I'm pretty sure is less demanding than hardcore stuff like Battlefield 1, Witcher 3 etc. Still, on pretty high settings I get almost constant 70 FPS at 1440P on one four year old AMD 7950 and a 4770K. The GPU and CPU are Plenty for what I do in Photoshop. I had been running two GPUs but removed one to make room for my HDSP 9632 card after discovering SBAF. If anyone has use for my spare card that'll still support moderate to 'pretty good' gaming they're welcome to it.
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    I still need the old card. This PC will be for my kids. Actually, I might swap the boards. Running an old Core Lynnfield.
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Also dumb question:

    A few years back, I forgot to refuse the free Windows 10 upgrade. As a result, Microsoft raped my hard disk and forced Windows 10 upon it.

    How can I get physical media for Windows 10 to reinstall?
     
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    Grahad2 Red eyes from too much anime

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    W10 uses your hardware config as a key. If you haven't changed the hardware re-installing doesn't need a serial. From the horse's mouth.

    This is on re-installing.

    Missed the edit. In that case you can also consider the RX560, but the 1050 Ti is about the same price (+ ~15 dollars?) and consistently faster. Fast enough is fast enough though. Low FPS or shitty visuals can be a motivator to game less - then again I finished the entire GTA:SA on integrated P4 graphics, so......
     
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    Galm Still looking for Little Red Riding Hood

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    What price were you thinking? I was liking that 1050 non ti for 90 bucks. Pretty decent sale and seems like enough tbh.
     
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    zerodeefex SBAF's Imelda Marcos

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    I have a 580 lightning XE with your name on it if it'll fit in your case.

    Wtf are you doing with your system? IPC is still lagging on the AMD stuff. I almost went Ryzen for my sentry build but ended up optimizing for the best little gaming rig I can stuff in a Dr. Zaber Sentry.
     
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    I ended up contacting Amazon support and they refunded me $60 for the non stacking rebates.
     
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    Components are more efficient. You won't need to upgrade a PSU from a power standpoint but one of the very most common comments on computer forums is that you'll want a PSU that is solid from a reliability standpoint. If a PSU goes bad it can take other components out with it. A couple of cards have been offered up for free. If there's a budget consideration, and it were me, I'd go with a hand me down card and put the money in to a solid PSU if there's any doubt about the reliability of the one you have. You can always drop in a better card later.
     
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    Galm Still looking for Little Red Riding Hood

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    I'm sorry, I'm not really sure what you're talking about? The 90 dollars was for Marvey and a 1050. What did you get a 60 dollar refund for?

    Also Ryzen IPC isn't that bad, it's close to Sky Lake with good ram. But it is the lower clockspeeds that make intel cpus perform better in games with their faster speeds.
     
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    @Marvey: I'll call you tomorrow. Let's take what you've got and plan out your second build.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MG0733A/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    It was listed with $60 of rebates but all required original UPC. Amazon refunded me $60 (I suspect because I've probably put Bezos' kids through college) and I get the $20 rebate.

    IPC is lower than the higher end parts at the end of the day. I have a 7700k and a 1700x and at even clocks, the 7700k is the better buy for me at $300 for a pure gaming build. For my streaming/encoding machine, the Ryzen is great.

    I've been an AMD fanboy for decades; my mother worked there for 20 years, I learned to use a screwdriver when I was a kid putting together an 80286 machine with one of her friends, my first gaming build in college was an Athlon Slot A with the original ATI Radeon 64MB DDR GPU, I used to run liquid nitrogen pot suicide runs for overclocking records with Athlon XP chips and I've been rooting for the company for three decades now. I will call a spade a spade, though and point out that Ryzen is competitive but does have tradeoffs just like everything else.
     
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    Galm Still looking for Little Red Riding Hood

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    Ah sorry I missed that it was through rebates on mobile my bad.

    Yeah so heres what I'm still iffy about cpu wise. Gaming still likes fast clockspeeds and good IPC. But core count is starting to matter more. For example on battlefield 1 I would almost guarantee the AMD cpu will win performance wise because the frostbite engine scales incredibly with cores.

    Additionally Marv didn't sound overly concerned about getting max performance. I think the AMD one could shine down the line as core scaling improves, and is certainly a good value usable cpu right now.

    But yeah, imo the real sweet spot for gaming is like a 6800k. 6 core with high clocks from Intel. But as an sli user, I'll now need a 10 core for 16 lanes on both gpus? Screw you intel.
     
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    You don't really need x16 for any GPU anyway, 2.0 x16 aka 3.0 x8 is still not saturated by any GPU on the market.

    If it's a -pure- gaming build then I would suggest looking into a Z97 motherboard and a 6700K, getting a 7700K likely means getting an expensive cooler to go with it as those things run HOT and if you aren't planning on overclocking then there's even less reason to go for the blue team in this case.

    AM4 is a better investment right now, Coffee Lake is already looking to be disappointing (the 6 core performance leaks show it as being a slower 6800K) and won't last long when Cannon Lake comes around, which you'll need a new motherboard for, assuming you can even use Coffee lake on Z170/Z270.
     

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