Best program to rip CD's to FLAC files?

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  1. earnmyturns

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    Metadatics has a similar function, but the free metadata sources lag/miss some of the more exotic albums/box sets like this which is in Allmusic but not in the free sources AFAIK.
     
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    For a benefit of the doubt, reinstalled again EAC's newest version. Compared it w/ EZ CD Audio Converter and dbPoweramp ...

    90's UI...same things that i don't like...did not even finished the rip... disinstalled.
     
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    It's really dbpoweramp. There is no contest for both convenience and speed while also absolutely securely ripping CDs.

    EAC, as far as I am concerned, it is almost like free version of dbpoweramp but without convenience and speed.
     
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    I've actually switched over to XLD. I had to take some time to get the settings for it right, but now it's a very secure although slow method of ripping. I'm okay with it being slow if that means increased accuracy.
     
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    Yeah, decent secure rips are really the only thing that matters. Levels of eye-candy or config hand-holding are completely irrelevant once you've set it up. You don't want to discover that your rips suck 400 CDs in.
     
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    EAC's secure mode is slower because the developers disagree on methodology. dBpoweramp's secure mode is actually the same as burst mode the vast majority of the time. If the results from the burst match the AccurateRip database, it calls it secure. On new discs, it rips in burst mode twice and (if the bursts match) calls it secure. EAC's secure mode actually reads every sector at least twice, every time. Does that mean dBpoweramp is always securely ripping CDs? The dBpoweramp developer would have you believe so while EAC's developer does not believe so. It's up to you whether you're comfortable calling matching bursts secure or whether you want every block read and confirmed.

    dBpoweramp secure rip explanation: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/secure-ripper.htm

    EAC secure rip explanation: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/index.php/overview/basic-technology/extraction-technology/
     
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    As far as I know, dbpoweramp does not go burst mode when secure mode is selected. It's far slower than burst mode (randomized and slower read speed). I believe as long as CRC is correct, it is certainly the rip is secure (whether it is burst or secure or not.) dbpoweramp does go for EAC as soon as it detects error and re-read troublesome blocks until either it gets right or give up after multiple tries.
     
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    dBpoweramp doesn't technically switch into burst mode when secure mode is selected, but the two function the same unless the checksum does not match the AccurateRip database. At that point, secure mode attempts error correction while burst mode does not. Here is the description from the dBpoweramp link:

    "Firstly we thought it was important to move away from the [read block][re-read block] & compare method, this method jiggles the CD drive backward and forward head many times a second causing stress to the drive (in Illustrates opinion). A new strategy is to rip in complete passes (AccurateRip is able to jump in and stop a rip after any pass it if agrees with AccurateRip). In addition Ultra Secure passes can be used to detect those hard to detect errors."

    EAC utilizes both AccurateRip and the read block / re-read block / compare method that dBpoweramp moved away from. I'm not saying one is better than the other, it's just a matter of whether you're comfortable calling matching passes secure. The dBpoweramp article also highlights some potential issues with EAC's handling of C2 error pointers, so nothing is perfect. [Edit: Nothing digital is perfect. I don't want the vinyl townspeople after me with pitchforks.]

    The visual below is from the dBpoweramp link for reference.

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    This is a slight diversion from the original topic but what do you guys tags looks like for ripping FLAC files? I'm using dBpoweramp, and am relatively new to FLAC so I've been experimenting with different tag configurations. I see some that are very simple and some quite complicated. What do yours look like?

    Thanks!
     
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    fyi, years of ripping with XLD at "not the slowest mode" (paranoid mode? could be the slowest) gave me perfect rips according to the accurate rip database. And they sounded fine. Average speed of rip per cd was about 3-5 minutes.

    Do keep in mind transports fail quite often and rips will slow considerably before you end up looking at or replacing the drive or the drive interface. Happened to me twice in 6 years or so, and not because I was a ripping machine, these things just do not hold up.
     
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    Well the mode I use does a test rip of every track before ripping the actual track. Given that I only rip infrequently these days, I do not mind.
     
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    Frankly I tag with Tag & Rename, EAC never does it correctly for me. As far as how to tag that's up to you... or whom ever your ripping/tagging for

    An going back to the "secure or not" I use Test and Copy on my EAC settings as well, I've not had any issues with accuracy or a lack there of. I do compare my rips to play back straight from the disc from time to time and I've not noticed or heard any differences. But my ripping time is around 45-50 minuet's per CD... an that doesn't include the time I spent tagging either -.-
     
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    I tag using foobar2000. It now can access MusicBrainz for excellent tag information and falls back to FreeDB. I also use DR meter through foobar, which writes DR information to each tag. Unfortunately, I use FLAC/CUE and I use a few more steps to embed the tag into the FLAC. This of course is not always compatible as many players are not compatible with full tags in a FLAC file with multiple tracks. This is just how I started to store my ripped CDs over a decade ago and am just being contrarian by not using individual tracks in individual FLACs.

    I have switched to AAC (variable bit, Q=109) instead of MP3 (LAME, variable bit, V0).
     

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