Beyerdynamic DT 1990?

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  1. not_currawong

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    Seems Superbestaudiofriends is full of Beyer haters?
     
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    Influencing people and winning friends are we? Instead of this lame attempt to troll I might be interested in hearing actual impressions of these particular cans. Not a fan of the Beyer sound but they do usually make really comfortable head gear.
     
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    990 with less treble and more mids but bass is the same according to Beyer rep in Aornic video. Seems too expensive to me but the aesthetics look as wonderful as the 1770.
     
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    Just give or take 10dB because Tesla.
     
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    I remember hearing about channel mismatch issues about the dt1770. Hopefully Beyerdynamic improved on the qc issues. Not sure how helpful this will be, but:


    He seems to suggest these have a rather warm/lush sound signature- contradictory to the Beyerdynamic house sound. Since, I like the more lusher less treble focused sound, these do have me quite interested.
     
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    Shitty opening post, but I'd be interested in hearing these. They're $599 straight from Amazon. I'm hoping maybe @Tyll Hertsens could get a pair and measure them.

    I've always loved the fit and comfort of the Beyer series but could never get back into their house sound after I stopped being a treble head. The DT 1990 also come with two pairs of pads, which you can use to tune for a more neutral or warmer sound. It's nice to see that the cable is detachable but it would have been nice if they used dual entry or a single 4-pin entry. I can understand that they're supposed to be for "studio" use though, so a single cable makes more sense that way.
     
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    sacredgates Audio-Technica's high priest

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    The few people (also reviewers) who heard them in Germany are more enthusiastic than usual. They don´t seem to have the same Beyerdynamic sound as the other models. We´ll have to wait till some trusted ears get to these. Sensible price. Very good build quality. I´m interested... Will be hard to make them go balanced with that 3-pin mini XLR connection though.
     
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    @Serious We need your German ears to determine if they have the spikes or not.

    Apparently an upgraded T90, dubbed the "Amiron Home" will be more balanced cable friendly. Also $600.
     
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    lol, I actually listened to it at CanJam for a little. I'm never sure how their source sounds. They have two pads and I think I listened to the more balanced pads. I didn't particularly care for it, but thought it was less bright than the DT990, but still a little bright for me. I think they still sound like Beyer Teslas, but I don't really remember much about it.
     
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    No Beyer "hate" here. I have the DT880 and tried the T1.2 with the intention of making it my endgame. Not my fault it sounded like ass.

    I don't believe that Beyer has produced a headphone in recent memory without fucked up treble. If the 1990 sounds good, it'll be an accident. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
     
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    Only 2 Beyers I've liked were the DT880 and DT150. If the new 1990 is tuned close to the 880 I'll be excited. Even then the 880 still has some mild treble issues.
     
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    I enjoy the DT 1990 Pro with the stock/warm pads fed by Gungnir Multibit and Mojo2 (stock 6BZ7). Surprisingly, it has received more play time than the Elear recently - mostly because it's tonally more cohesive than the Elear. For a sense of preference, the modded HD 650 fed by Gungnir Multibit and Mojo2 is where I am happiest.

    Comfort-wise, the 1990 has more clamping force than the Elear but weighs less and feels lighter on my head. The cups are similar in depth to the stock 650, but my ears warm more quickly (subtly uncomfortable but tolerable). The 1990 is definitely more comfortable than the T5p Gen 2, however, which only barely covers my ears and has seal issues.

    The 1990 does not extend as low as the Elear, nor does it have the Elear's impact or dynamism. It does sound clearer than both the 650 and the Elear, though, likely correlated to (among other things) its accentuated treble - which while less etched than the T5p.2's (ouch) and more refined and natural than the Elear's is still bright and artificially emphasized and not nearly as integrated as the 650's. Tonally, the 650's more cohesive, natural, and non-fatiguing. Both the 650 and the Elear are more resolving than the 1990.

    Imaging is width-emphasized vice depth and similar in approach to the 650. There is more presence than the 650 or the Elear, and higher male vocals are more forward. Acoustic instruments, vocals, and prog rock (erm?) are very enjoyable; Rhino's 2016 very hotly remastered Dio fatigues quickly.

    It actually leaks outwardly fairly little while retaining situational awareness; I feel it's nearly on par with the T5p.2.

    For the price, this is a nice headphone that requires a somewhat powerful amp.
     
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    That might just be a very pleasing sound there! The 990's treble is a little hot and overexposed for some tastes but it is beautifully detailed and finely textured for sure.
     
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    I had DT48 headphones. I had a DT1350, a good one mind you. My last Beyerdynamic was a DT250-250. The DT1350 and DT250 were good.

    I call your bluff and challenge you to buy a DT48. Enjoy...
     
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    I bought T5p 2 gen few months ago and loved them - to my ears they sound accurate (with HD600 as a reference) but have faster, more defined bass. Separation and details are very good and the famous Beyerdynamic treble does not hurt me at all.
    Not spectacular but I bought them for a good price and what I like the most is the quality of sound with portable setup: I use it with HTC 10 and JDC Labs C5 or with iPod and C5. iBasso DX80 is my next move I think. I mostly listen to classical.

    Two days ago I changed pads to Brainwavz sheepskin and I cannot part with T5p.2 since then, they are on my head all the time. Comfort is incredible, better isolation and they sound a bit darker overall without loosing any details.
    One difference comparing to the original pads is that Brainwavz have a piece of material between my ears and the driver. Not sure if I can and should just cut it off.
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    After trying Brainwavz hybrid I never went back to the sheepskin pads. Hybrids do not overhang the driver as much as sheepskin which is I think why they maintain the T5p.2 sound signature with slightly better bass extension, without loss of control. T5p.2 bass with sheepskin pads was not that tight.
    It is not really portable headphone but the synergy with Onkyo DP-X1 is remarkable in balanced setup.
    They also sound great but slightly darker with DX-80.
     
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    Has he bought a DT48 already? Then we talk about not liking Beyerdynamic...
     
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    Heard A1 and T1 Mk 1 for the first time on Monday and it is a very accomplised pairing. -3dB at 8kHz and it is a special performace indeed. Possibly not worth the original sticker price but a super used buy!
     
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    They are pretty good IMHO, I also add +3db to bass (low shelf from 80hz with low Q) and +2db to 7khz with high Q. Still not as clear as the HD800, but they have a very nice imaging. By ear I set the -3dB at 9.5khz but I hear the peak at slightly different frequencies in both drivers so I try to set it at the middle. They sound to me like a rough version of the Elears.
     
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    Instead of un-peaking the 9-10 kHz range I found that lowering 7-8 kHz has a more enjoyable effect. I also find the 3-3,5 kHz too present. Lowering both creates a headphone that is the best open headphone by Beyer yet.

    EQ is not necessarily a must, but I find mids to be a bit too harsh and a wee bit hollow. On Hugo and Lake People RS 08 I'd describe the DT1990 as a bit sibilant, but not so much on the ADI-2 Pro.

    At first I didn't dig these headphones a lot, but once the ear pads fully adjusted, I find these to perform incredibly well. The bass is phenomenal!
     
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    Hi all, I'm wondering if someone here can tell me whether the clamping force on the DT 1990 matches the one in the HD600/650. I've done lots of reading and I realize that it's quite comparable; but if the DT 1990 are even a nudge less clamp than the HD600 I'm seriously considering taking the plunge. I should also mention that I've been advised here in SBAF to look at either the HD800 or the DT 880 Premium 600ohm as a substitute for my HD600; the first I'd definitely love to have but it's out of my reach budget–wise at the moment, and the second I might go ahead and try over the DT 1990 if people here second that opinion.

    Gotta say though, I'm really smitten with how the DT 1990 look!

    Thanks,
     
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