El Lay Troubles (Bad) and Tribbles (Good)

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  1. fridaleider

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    Dorothy Parker called it "seventy two suburbs in search of a city." LA is what happens when you give everyone the detached single family home despite the area being an economic hub. Zoning needs to change to let developers build up (with appropriate seismic precautions) and the city needs to make massive investments in grade-separated rail (stilts are cheaper than tunnels) and bus-only lanes on major streets that allow public transit (especially the rapid buses) to be faster than driving your car. Letting buses sit in traffic gives people no incentive to use them, because they offer no advantage above your car. The virtuous cycle (supplemented of course by curb-separated bicycle lanes) would entice more people to use public transit, thereby easing traffic for those motorists for whom their living or work situation doesn't permit it.

    I grew up in LA. I'm still recovering.
     
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    I don't get the sence that Elon wants to make a lot of money, but more just wants to do what he wants to do. He made a lot of money with paypal, but tesla isn't that profitable, and spacex isn't getting him money. I don't think he would consider Americas interests though, more just what he wants to do.
     
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    I've flown through LA twice recently and only done shopping stopovers for the wife. Taiwanese colleagues have asked where they should go in LA. I honestly don't have any real local knowledge, but aside from the standard theme parks, walk of fame, Joshua Tree NP, and a drive out to Hearst Castle, I can't think of anything else (besides outlet malls) .

    What would be the standard foreign tourist hitlist? This is obviously dependent on tastes, but it's pretty easy to come up with one for cities like NY and SF.
     
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    I've been thinking to move out of L.A. county. Time to get married and start a family, etc. I've always loved the wild west states, like Montana, Wyoming. Recently I've met someone from Helena, Mt. Told her my idea about moving there. You guys should have seen her face. She started an angry rant about how Californians ruined her town by moving there en masse and how, thus, Helena lost it's original charm. I have moved to L.A. from a small borough from central Penn State. Literally, one side of the road Amish, the other side rednecks.


    It has it's charm, but I've always wanted to live in L.A. This city is frightening. So many options, and a world cultural hub. One day you watch the Bodyguard musical at the Pantages, the next day you catch a hockey playoff game. The downs are already mentioned, so I won't repeat that. I know that it would break my heart to move out of this place one day for a new home which is cleaner, cheaper and safer to raise kids.

    Not to mention the frequency of personal audio meets and other related happenings. It seems that SoCal is the world center of personal audio. We are so spoiled here.
     
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    So I guess I should recommend the Schiitr as a travel destination to my colleagues :p
     
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    A friend came to visit and we went to LA for a day trip. Did a Paramount studio tour which was nice and went to lunch at Howlin Rays in chinatown for Nashville hot chicken. Ray's is very hyped and still has 1-2 hour waits in line after being open for a year, although from my understanding they got the wait down to 30min during the week. I didn't go for the hype but mainly because I've been obsessed about hot chicken for awhile and Ray's was the only place I knew that served it in the area(let me know of other places!). I ordered a half chicken at 'hot' and a wing at 'x-hot'. The maximum advertised level is 'howlin' and there is an off menu 'howlin++' for the crazy people. From what I understand they use scorpion peppers and carolina reapers for the hottest levels. After my order the guy warned me not to touch my face all day, DO NOT ignore this.

    About the chicken:
    -They are serious about the spice levels. Hot had some major heat but not so much that I couldn't enjoy the chicken. X-hot was where I was feeling pain and was glad I only got a wing. My friend had a wing of 'howlin' and he said I could take a bite. The single small bite I had was enough to ruin my day.
    -The hype is real. Despite the pain I could taste something really good under all that heat. I would say it's even worth the wait for mild.

    About the place:
    -Very VERY nice staff. Me and my friends got freebies we didn't even order. I got a free drink and my friend got a free wing. I suspect it's because they know we've been waiting in line for a long time.

    Some good news is that they bought a nearby space and are currently expanding, so waits won't be so atrocious in the future. If there was no wait this would be an instant recommendation but with the wait I would say it depends what you are willing to put up with. The good thing is that it is in a food court area and there are plenty of good places to eat. So if you show up and it looks a bit too long for you, then your trip isn't wasted.
     
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    Small town. The Schiitr is in the quaint old part of the town which appears to be up and coming. (The new parts of Santa Clarita are a suburban disaster). If I didn't have kids, I'd buy another house around that area. There's a small main street with a few high quality (better food than anything I can get in Calabasas and at a much better prices) gastropub establishments. There is also a playhouse where Mike Moffat has stage manger duties.
     
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    As far as where to visit: the beach. Lots of nice beaches and a few tidepools along PCH in Malibu. Studio tours (Paramount, Warner, etc.) are nice and really the way to go instead of Universal Studios, unless you like the rides and being around millions of other people. You can also go Disney, but Disney in Florida is better.

    The tidepools are neat if you like to see critters, although the last time I went, I got VERY VERY upset at seeing foreigners of various nationalities violently poke sticks under rocks to overturn them, picking up giant sea slugs to torture them (some kinds spray ink when stressed), and fuck with other smaller marine life with chopsticks.
     
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    I was being facetious about visiting the schiitr. These colleagues use the earbuds that came with their phones. I look forward to visiting though.

    Hmm. Studio tours and the beach. Guess that's why I had a hard time thinking of places to go. Not sure the beach would do much for most Asian tourists. They want stuff to do and crap to buy. And they love being around millions of other people. Another colleague recently returned from a trip to Singapore and was raving about the Universal Studios there.
     
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    That sounds like Disney.
     
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    To walk around, buy shit, and look at Bugatti Veyrons: Beverly Hills

    I actually enjoy walking around Beverly Hills.
     
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    Tell your colleagues NOT to go to Hollywood.
     

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