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  1. sorrodje

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    Specifications :

    Driver Type Planar Magnetic
    Driver Unit 80 mm
    Frequency Response 15-50000 Hz
    Sensitivity 104 dB
    Impedance 35 Ohm
    Cord length 2 m detachable copper cable (3.5 mm)
    Weight : ~ 700gr
    Price : 2,5ĸ€ or 2.25K$

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    Look, feel and Some Subjective impressions about sound :

    More to come later when I'll more headtime with it but to sum up ; super heavy and super strong clamp. Nice look and quality ( wood and leather , no plastics) . Sounds nice , much nicier than it measures. Does not sound nowhere close to something i'd pay 2,5K€ though. Still under investigations. for more impressions. Definitely designed to compete with Audeze.. Shitty QC included....
     
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    Measurements

    FR Left and Right
    Kennerton Odin FR Left & Right.png

    Distorsion Left
    ODIN_Distorsion_Left.png

    Distorsion Right
    ODIN_Distorsion_Right.png

    CSD Left
    ODIN_Waterfall_Left.png

    CSD Right
    ODIN_Waterfall_Right.png

    Impulse Response Left
    Odin_IR_Left_1.png

    Impulse Response Right
    ODIN_IR_Right_1.png

    IR left (Larger Time window)
    Odin_IR_Left_2.png

    IR Right (Larger Time window)
    Odin_IR_Right_2.png

    Spectro Right
    ODIN_Spectro_Right.png


    Comments :

    - Imbalance ( quality control ? )
    - Bass Roll off
    - Bumps @1khz and 3 khz in the mids
    - Dip @6khz and peak at 7 and 9.5khz . CSD is not that bad for the 6khz Dip. Maybe some artifact but the dip is hearable nevertheless ( I tried to listen sweep tones . Peaks and dips are obvious)
    - So so distorsion but take it with a huge grain of salt . i'm not confident with distorsion measurements on my rig.
    - Seems the IR show the driver takes a huge amount of time to come back to full rest ?? Dunno how to comment that.
     
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    said to be a super he-6 with less treble, but more transparent overall. Finally some coverage.
     
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    800gr. Holy crap.

    So that's where they got the name from. You've got to have neck muscles like Odin to wear them.
     
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    The weight distribution is spectacular. Odins are much more comfortable than HE-6 or Abyss.
    One caveat, though: the vertical headband adjustment is designed for middle or large sized heads. On the other hand, I haven't experienced any clamp issues.
     
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    The vali is not as heavy but the same design. I however, find it less comfortable than Audeze. But prefer its sound to the LCD2
     
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    just saw this pic
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    Quick! Find out what that bowl is made of! We could be on to something here! :sail:
     
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    I'd have to dig up my notes, but I thought these sounded pretty weird at RMAF.
     
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    f**k me. We all need another >$1.5-2k planar headphone like we need holes in our heads. Makes the Ether seem like a real bargain.
     
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    Didn't take notes but my own impressions could be described with the same word.
     
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    Fixed the weight. I did a quick search and probably found bad information. Sorry.

    For the RMAF... a friend of mine who owns the Odin (not the one I measured here) was at RMAF wasn't well served by the associated system. I trust him. I borrowed and measured his Odin before to borrow the one you see.here. measurements was worse in term of imbalance and bass roll off so we decided to not publish measurements. That's why I borrowed a second one but it still exhibits imbalance ans some oddities .

    Btw, to my ears it sounds good. Not weird . Need a bit more time to investigate more subtle characteristics but it sounds nice.
     
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    I remember hearing this headphone back in canjam London, but from what i remember this headphone was heavy & sturdy, but a little lighter than the lcd 3. For some reason when i was listening to the Odin i found it was using the abyss headphone cable instead of the Odin original cable.

    I believe there is a MK2 version coming out that was suppose to address the qc issue i think along with some new cables with a thicker headband. I also believe the Odin mk2 will have sapele wood thats all i remember. Can't be bothered to dig out the info, but i think the info is lying around on headfi.
     
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    Sapele wood + glossy finish, to be precise.
     
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    I know Drakkard was on Changstar and he is member of the Kennerton team. Maybe He's still lurkin around
     
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    Considering the Imbalance I didn't give the usual Average FR + raw takes . But I still can give those graphs for Left and Right. I know my measurements are discussed in Russia and people wonder if the imbalance and other issues are not due to a bad method.

    In Yellow ,the AVG FR, in grey all raw takes . I use different positions of the cups relative to the mic and and the coupler in order to explore all differences. Somewhat there're significant differences.

    Left
    ODIN_FR_L.png

    Right
    ODIN_FR_R.png


    Check the above CSD and you'll see that the 6khz dip is partly an artifact but the dip is still there. Positionning doesnt affect much the result . Pressure of the pads on he coupler a bit more ( less dips in the treble) but basically the FR stays the same , FR still different for each channel and bass roll off for both . Seal is as usual for my measurements : better than a natural one on our head.
     
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    Yup, I'm around. I was in charge of this project until early prototypes shown in 2014 at IFA, but moved to other things since.
    It is still kind of personal and sensitive subject to me. So I find it uncomfortable tearing apart between my own feelings, and official company position here. But I can answer to PM I guess.
     
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    I don't want to embarrass you really. Nice to see you here though :) . Feel free to correct me if something misleads readers in what I posted ;)
     
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    Well, it's mostly personal impressions, so nothing to correct =)
    Your FR measurements have some resemblance to what I have (they are dated though), but distortion seems higher, especially peaks at 1, 3 and 10kHz - I'm surprised to see it.
     
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