Lessloss Audio Products

Has anyone tried their Echo's end DAC? It sounds amazing and parts quality is way above the schiit Yggdrasil as well. I haven't heard the Yggdrasil myself but am wondering if anyone has any thoughts about this here. http://www.lessloss.com/echos-end-p-218.html

 

Which parts exactly are "way above the Yggdrasil"?

 

Must be the wood case, makes it sound more natural.

 

Kinda hoping that you linked us this wacky thing ironically, @donunus?

 

5K is a bit bonkers for a single board Soekris affair. It will be good, if they've added a decent PSU and a new set of filters, but that's 700$ in parts at best.

 

Lessloss? The same company that makes the Blackbody "ambient field conditioner"?? Look... just... no. I'm willing to accept some pseudoscience and cable talk here and there, but I draw the line at absolute quackery. Stuff like that doesn't doesn't just bring down the SNR, it's utter poison.

 

power supply and analog output stage looks to be better but anyways just curious if anyone has heard this dac in action since I find it to be amazing.

 

Somehow I feel like I was reading an 6moons article when I visited the product page.

Given the price, I can buy Yggdrasil Dac, Mutec MC3+ USB, Audiophile usb cable, Audiophile grade digital interconnect, AC power conditioner and still have money left for Ikea Aptitlig bamboo butcher's block as base.

 

lol guys I guess I started a controversial thread. I was just wondering if anyone is actually familiar with them as well and has heard it since Ive only heard the Gungnir Multibit and not the Yggdrasil

 

The power supply performance of the Soekris DAC boards will always be capped by the internal PWM supplies, has anything been done by Lessloss audio to remedy this?

The original Soekris DAC board requires no output stage. Extra buffering electronics are there for differential signalling, has Lessloss audio developed their own balanced conversion circuit or have they stuck to the stock opamps?

Which revision Soekris boards are being used in the end product? If unmodified or made to operate without a muting circuit, the early boards will output a potentially damaging transient on shutdown. Speakers and amplifiers have been destroyed by this.

 

Can you link the pic of the internals where you saw it? Just curious how you guessed it was a soekris board etc

 

I didn't need to guess, here's Soeren confirming that himself - http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vend...magnitude-24-bit-384-khz-522.html#post4677230

And here's a pic -

 

Oh man, this thread gave me a good chuckle this morning. If I slapped some maple veneer on my Yggdrasil do you think I could resell it for $5k?

 

alright fair enough. The thing sounds great though

 

An incredibly bold statement found on the product page. Does it mean that the standard Sokeris dac board is capable of beating even dCS and MSB dacs?

 

There's no reason why it shouldn't. I shilled the DAM board back in the pirate days, Pridiik did a shootout with Yggdrasil and neither came on top too distinctly. I think that MisterRogers also built and liked one as well.

The board itself is a cool platform for the adventurous DIY'er to kit out and with right massaging it probably can outpunch the Yggdrasil by a hair. I just don't think that plonking it into a wooden box warrants the price tag.

 

According to Less Loss founders, it seems casing material of audio equipment has big influence on sound quality:




http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue67/lessloss_blackbody.htm

 

This whole thread reignites my fantasy of building a soekris dac... thanks @donunus !