Loaner: MD x EC ZDT Jr.

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  1. JoshMorr

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    ZDT Jr arrived from @ButtUglyJeff and JAN 5654W arrived from @Gaspasser on the same day. Divine intervention if I would say so myself. Looking forward to solving this discrepancy between units.

    I will get this out to the next on the loaner list on Friday.
     
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    Received #2.

    The package was in perfect condition.

    Replacing my DNA Sonett 2 in my work setup: Allo Digione -> Classe DAC-1 -> <insert amp> -> IEMatch -> Andromeda.

    Couple things:
    - This is way too noisy for the Andros w/ IEMatch in High. It's fine with IEMatch set to Ultra
    - This makes some great music right out of the box!
     
  4. JoshMorr

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    Was planning on getting this out to @zonto today, but never heard back from him when i pm'd for address. @Ryu pming you to get address
     
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    Sent to Ryu, sorry Zonto - you are missing a good amp here.
     
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    Is "GE JAN 5654W" the only tube recommendation for this amp? Looking to take advantage of 10% off in tube depot. They don't seem to have this tube.
     
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    No, not necessarily. It's just that they offer really good performance, and a noticeable improvement over the stock tubes, for often dirt cheap prices. I've seen mid-to-late 80s production pairs going for less than $10 on eBay.

    Sure, you can find other 5654W and equivalent tubes, and they might sound better than GEs at a higher price, but the GEs make sense to keep around.
     
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    Thanks, I will look for them in ebay.

    Tube noob here, can you suggest some alternatives? Also, why do you think it makes sense to keep a few extra GE's. Are they the most commonly used/required items?
     
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    I just meant the GEs are so cheap, plentiful, and sound good that they're worth keeping a pair around. Or you can use them exclusively. There's nothing really wrong with them.

    As for other tubes, I'd recommend starting with the stock tubes and those GEs, give them all lots of burn in time, and see if you think something's missing. Then do some research and figure out what tubes might add what you're looking for, if anything. Just be extremely careful and make sure you get equivalent tubes (i.e. just because the pins fit, doesn't mean you should use them).
     
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    I am not sure if you can find better tubes than GE JAN 5654W. 5654W itself is higher grade than 6AK5 (just as 7308 is higher grade than 6922), on top of that you have JAN designation, meaning for military usage. Can't find better tube than that, except perhaps if you can find Mullard EF95
     
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    I know this has been answered before, but I cannot find anything. When burning in tubes, I assume I need to play something. But do I have to have headphones plugged in to the amp?
     
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    I don't know for sure. I always do, and have volume set so I can hear some music through them. But not sure if it really matters.
     
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    I suggest you may be over thinking this. When my very own ZDT Jr. arrives, I intend to listen within a few minutes of power on and enjoy hearing the amp and any changes that occur in the tubes as they settle in. Probably have an IR sensor pointed at one of the tubes each power on for thermal measurements to find equilibration. It makes for a wonderful opportunity to learn, something I hope to continue as long as I live.
     
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    #2 handed over to @Jh4db536 .

    This little guy is awesome! Me want.
     
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    Any idea where the east coast version is? Did @Ryu receive it? Who gets it next @zonto?
     
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    Ryu does have it- it should have went to you, but I'm not very good at reading. Don't I said he is swamped, I told ryu to go to you next
     
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    I do remember Ryu being on the list ahead of me, but now he’s not on?
     
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    I thought exact same thing, thought I read his name, got his address, sent amp, then looked at list and he wasnt there? Pretty good chance we're losing it.
     
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    I'm ready to hand #2 off to @Luckbad

    Let me know if you want to pick it up or I can meet you halfway. I'm working long hours right now but we can work something out.

    If you want to come stop by and check out my system, very welcome. Bring some cd
     
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    Going to you on Monday.
     
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