Marvey's Cable Rolling Adventures

Discussion in 'Modifications and Tweaks' started by Marvey, May 7, 2016.

  1. Puma Cat

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    So, I hooked up both the AQ Columbia and Colorado to the two RCA outputs of Gumby today and ran each pair into a separate input on my Conrad-Johnson CT-5 preamp. As the preamp has a remote that allows for almost instantaneous switching of inputs, and I can a do direct A/B comparison between the two on the same musical content.

    After very close listening, the two are very, very, close. It's difficult to distinguish any discernable difference between these two cables. If there was any difference I can discern, the Colorado might, possibly, be the tiniest bit quieter and cleaner, but it's so close so as to not be any practical difference. You're going to hear differences in mastering quality much more than you're going to hear a difference between these two. The only difference between these two cables is that Colorado uses FEP air tubes instead of polyethylene air tubes. If you're interested in these cables, as the AQ Columbia is available at Music Direct for 50% off the original retail price for $200 for a 1M pair, and Colorados is $450 for a 1M pair, I would say pass on the Colorado, and get the Columbia. Or, if you have the budget, pick up two pair of Columbia for less than the price of one pair of Colorado, and put more of these into your system. Overall verdict: its'a tossup. Go for the less expensive cable if interested. Personally, I think the AQ Columbia IC at $200 for 1M RCA is killer value, and betters any other non-AQ cable I've had in my system. These are so much better than my previous reference, Zu Mission, that its not even funny. Cheers, mateys!
     
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    Update: I just listened to a 24/192 recording of Ella Fitzgerald's "You're My Thrill" on Clap Hands, Here Comes Charlie, and the difference on the Colorado is clearer here: it's essentially exactly the same in timbre, vocal quality, tonal shadings as Columbia, its just slightly quieter; the background is blacker, to use a way over-used adjective. That's it.
     
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    I've cooled somewhat on the KAB SpiralAir cables. Not bad overall, but details seem a bit smoothed over. I wonder if they would sound better with the more expensive ETI bullet plugs.

    My go to for the foreseeable future is the Mogami W2497 cable with Canare F10 connectors from Redco. These just sound right to me, through the entire frequency range. Very transparent. With shipping, these will set you back about $75, but you could build them yourself for a lot less.
     
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    For the uninitiated: Redco custom cable orders
    You need to choose 'Unbal.Instrument' for type of cable.
    I was quoted $62.40 for 10ft.
     
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    Interesting. A 1M pair is about $65. Have you ever tried Blue Jeans' LC-1? Trying to triangulate as I've only spent meaningful time with those and Cardas Golden Reference.
     
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    I tried the BJC LC-1 about a year ago, to me they seemed somewhat veiled.


    In case it's not obvious, you have to set the quantity to 2, unless you just want a single cable.
     
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    Agreed on the BJC LC-1, as good as the specs look, I woudl not use them in any of my systems. My hunch is the cable is probably not so bad, and it may just be the connectors!

    Pro wire is a super way to go for decent sound for pretty cheap. Another decent pair can be made up with Canare GS-6 and F09 for about $25 per 3 feet pair. Not great but more balanced than LC-1.
     
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    What are some favorite wires and connectors for digital coax? I need to make a short one to connect my pi3/hat to my Mimby.
     
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    Thank you for sharing this. I also currently use the Zu mission line for interconnects. I have sent you a PM.
     
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    I noticed cable differences only recently once my system became transparent enough. I managed to snag a pair of wywires platinum xlr for 300. With these I will settle the high end cable debate for myself.
     
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    Any well made RG-6 based copper wire will work well. Since it is stiff be careful of sharp bends. Lots of concern over the rca connectors, with folks all spun up on 75 ohms. Since they do not exist and even the Canare ones (supposedly 75 ohms) have come under fire, I would not worry about it.

    A step up seems to be silver based or silver clad wire. I have heard many $20-$300 digital coax cables and the silver ones sounded the best, but you can get quite close with a simple well terminated copper coax. My cable drawer has a superb silver clad one for under $175 that I keep should I ever need to test coax spdif.

    I also have a $25 one that beats the oft mentioned Blue Jeans coax.
     
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    Does anyone have experience with Audio Sensibility Statement copper or Neotech 3001 rca cables?
     
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    And which one is that? In what ways is it better?

    Can it be custom ordered in short lengths like the BJC?
     
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    Been a while since I had the BJ but from memory the Purepiper was more open and a bit more dynamic compared with BJ. Not sure if it can be ordered shorter, mine is 3 feet. google it, the company is out of China. Luckbad had my Purepiper for a few weeks, you might ping him for more recent sonic impressions in his setups.
     
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    I have an Audio Sensibilites cable made from their PCOCC wire and it is very good. It is a specialty cable I used with the Chord Mojo when I had it. Up for sale now.
     
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