Discussion in 'Headphone Measurements' started by Marvey, Dec 15, 2017.
The Elex is back on Massdrop.
Waiting for the reviews after Feb 19th
@brencho hmmm...is it time for the Eclair? I have to say I am curious Lol. I think the should change the name from Elex to Eclair. I like Eclair better.
@Cellist88 haha well the Clear and Elex pads are different and so may sound a little different (hopefully not all that different!). I'd like to hear an elex though, and also measure an eclair, for completeness.
Hahaha done! Thanks @Vansen This I think confirms Eclair was the right choice over Cannoli and Profiterole.
You gentlemen are classy and sophisticated. I, on the other hand, was thinking about making a dick joke. Measuring eclairs (insert Beavis & Butthead laugh)
I am full on in the throes of gear acquisition syndrome, so I snapped these guys up. I have been meaning to check out the focal house sound and this sounds like the perfect entry point.
I think my average listening volume is somewhere around 70db based on the completely unscientific method of cramming my iphone into the cups of my TH-X00, so the excursion thing isn't likely a concern for me.
The only thing I am worried about is the weight. Are these like Audeze magnitude, skull crushing weight? Does the headband mitigate the pressure?
Wait, aren't they shipping around the end of April, or did I miss something?
I'm guessing around Feb 19th is when the first drop starts shipping out... ?
You’re right as far as I know, shipments won’t start until April. Will cleared it up a bit ago...
Fuck it I bought one of these mail order brides
She looks like waifu material, but if I don't like the sound of her voice the marriage can be annulled on eBay and maybe she can runaway with some stylish European man that's got his shit together
Aside from the color, the Clear pads and the Elex pads are the same.
Clear were too warm and a bit too bassy for me. Elex / Eclair / whateverthefuck are prob more up my alley. More akin to mini Utopia tonally. maybe like the hd600 vs hd650 dilemma (I'm in the former camp). Sweeping generalizations etc etc apply. If the pads are the same then differences probs due to the voice coil and impedance diff among possibly other unknowns.
Feb 19th was the mistake date that Massdrop accidentally put up when they reduced the price from $800 to $700. It was promptly fixed and confirmed in the forums that February was a mistake and 1st drop has the same end of April estimate as the current drop. So there won't be any more reviews out to decide before this drop ends.
My Elears are more comfortable than my previous 2016 LCD-2F, but not as comfortable as my LCD2C. I think comfort on Elear/Clear/Elex comes down to head shape. Because the headband is perfectly round with no ability to adjust shape and the padding doesn't have any cutouts for flex like HD600/650, if your head isn't perfectly round to match the headband shape it can create hotspots. I for one have a bit of a pointy head so I get a hotspot right on top of my head and the headphone needs adjustment every once in a while, say 20-30 min. Not a deal breaker, but not great either.
Also, I don't find weight to be the main determining comfort factor either. My Auteur and Atticus are probably some of the most comfortable headphones I have. Clamp is lighter than HD6x0, earpad opening is bigger, and I find leather more comfortable than velour. My HD800 is super lightweight but because my head is smaller the earpads are arguably too big and they touch my jaw as well as not get a perfect seal. They also clamp too lightly for my preferences and feel like they will fall off my head if I look down. I can wear lighter headphones like Sennheisers for super long listening sessions though.
I have a big monster melon, so these should work well for me.
So, I have read through the entirety of this and the other site thread and I have to say I am at a bit of a loss in regards to some of the negative feedback this drop is getting. This sounds like a great opportunity to get deep into the Focal sound at a very reasonable price.
I am probably going to end up coming off like a Massdrop shill, but after picking up a majority of their collaboration headphone products, I think I have preferred the tweaks they have made to their offerings over their respective production counterparts, without fail.(K7XX, TH-X00, etc.) Massdrop seems like one of the last companies carrying the torch for the old spirit of head-fi(not .org), which was: amazing bang-for-your-buck performance.
Anyways, in my younger years I might have offered some dime-store analysis on the motivations of some of the negative feedback I have read, but for now I will just leave it at insinuation... ha!
I joined the drop. Maybe the tonal balance is better than Clear. That would justify selling the Clear and buying a Utopia
probably better to sell both and just buy the utopia Lol.
I agree, owning both Elex and Clear seems like way too much redundancy, arguably on the same level as HD600/650 overlap. Sure, HD600/650 are different enough and at $200 each owning both isn't absolutely ridiculous. But at the $1k/each price point it doesn't make as much sense. Brand new Utopia street price is like $2600 right now, so Clear + Elex basically puts you there. It seems like a much better proposition to just skip Elex/Clear and go for the real thing. Even the previous owners of Utopia that also bought Clear as either a complement or hoping to save some bucks downgrading to Clear ended up selling Clear because they kept finding the Utopia to be the better headphone and worth its value given how much money they might lose in resale.
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