Noble Kaiser Encore (K10 Successor)

Discussion in 'IEMs and Portable Gear' started by mrweirdude, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. Breaker

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    i still don't have chance to get the k10 encore, but i do own an Katana and have opportunity to use origin k10, what i can says is, Katana is much more blanace, sound more neutral.
    about the encore, i don't think they doing much for make it become an katana, when its still k10 name, surely its will make its alike with origin k10 , which mean the bass sound much more heavier than katana

    I don't know why people want to change the cable of their tiny in-ear headphones, some tell me that the sound completely changed but i don't see any point that its can changed if the vendors already make it good enough, i've tried something else but nothing changed much.
    anyone hear can explain for me why ppl love change their cable , and that cable is so expensive ?
     
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    Stock IEM cables have a bad habit of being ergonomic and microphonic disasters and it often has nothing to do with how cables may, or may not, sound.

    Mostly because enough people will pay it and think "more expensive must be better".

    There are other factors though ... building a good IEM cable, even as a DIY job, is somewhat time consuming. Even if you just use simple bulk-copper wire, decent parts are deceptively "expensive" (and the cheap stuff tends to be a bitch to work with). The "fashionable" parts, say Eidolic 2-pin connectors, an Eidolic splitter and a suitable headphone jack will run you $60 by the time they're shipped. So you're at $70 in parts or so before you start. Swap that basic copper wire for something fancy and suddenly you can be looking at $200-250 in parts.

    IEM parts are fiddly to work with due to their size, which ups build time. IEM cables are typically braided, which adds to the build time. If you want them sheathed in something that multiplies the build time. That all goes into costs ... and most people don't want to work for minimum wage. Hell, most of the time I flat out refuse to build IEM cables for people because it's not worth the whining about costs when they want a cable made with $200 of parts for $250 ...
     
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    So your saying you won't build me beautiful iems cable, for $50 for your time??? Very greedy of you bro. ;)
     
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    Pretty much!

    There is, of course, a big difference in building something for friends here and there vs. doing it on a commercially viable basis. The nature of my "day job" makes the prospect of building anything but very-high-end cables a bit untenable, at least without it proving to be a significantly money-losing venture. And I'd like to keep my life moving forward!

    Back when the HD6XX dropped, I was contemplating offering to build a bunch of balanced cables for those here that wanted them (see below). Ultimately I decided not to do that on the basis that I couldn't do it at price that would match, say, Impact Audio, even if it wasn't braided, without losing more than the cable was worth on each unit (never mind breaking even):

    HD650-Balanced.jpg
     
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    Even if I had the skills, which I don't, it too would be a losing proposition me. Although, I'd be the type to help friends out, my nights would be filled with building cables... Not the ideal way I want to spend my free time.
     

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