Schiit Jotunheim impressions

Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by Bill-P, Aug 30, 2016.

  1. TheIceman93

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    Another combo worth considering is the Jotunheim + iFi iTube 2 Buffer. As soon as my Eikon arrives, I'll post impressions of this combo but the iTube 2 had a very positive effect when it was originally paired with my Neve RNHP. The most noticeable effect was increased bass impact, increased body in the midrange, and a pleasant warmth in tonality but I also perceived a slight increase in the width and depth of the soundstage. The RNHP suffers from a lack of instrument sustain which the iTube 2 improved ... overall, instrument timbre seemed a tad more realistic. My initial concern was that the iTube would increase the noise floor and decrease the resolution but neither of these occurred.

    I haven't heard the Sagaheim yet but the Saga's buffer stage is a tube/SS hybrid so its going to be pretty transparent (which some will prefer). The iFi is pure tube and it was designed to color the sound so you may notice more of an effect vs the Saga.

    The headfi thread for the iTube is pretty much useless but I would give this loaner tour audiocircle thread a read. These are impressions of the unit with speaker rigs but I would say that I heard a lot of what these guys are describing on my headphone rig - http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=148425.0
     
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    Plasti dipped my Sys to match my Jot/Mimby.
    Came out pretty nice!
     
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    What I'm reading and what I'm hearing are not in agreement apparently, but there it is.

    I've certainly noticed some blurring/smearing/etc with the Crack; in fact, I've commented in the past that this is one of the things that I like about it. It can make junk recordings sound...well, still junky, but in a more pleasing way. The Jot just seems to be mashing things together in a way that I don't like.

    To clarify, it's not terrible, but I know that the headphones can do better. I've heard them do better on another amp, with the same source, using good recordings that I'm very familiar with. That's why I initially noticed it.

    Anyone else running the same chain? Am I just hearing things?
     
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    As a follow up to my issues, I turned the Jot back on yesterday, hooked it and the Crack (now Speedballed) up to the Gumby, and did some semi-serious A/B comparisons. All is fine. I don't know what the hell the problem was. Ear issues? Did the Jot need a break? (I'd kept it on continuously since I got it.) No idea. I'm not noticing that "smearing" that was bothering me so much earlier. Maybe it was me that needed the break. Probably a loose screw between the ears, but I'm now turning the Jot off when it's not in use. (The Gumby of course stays on 24/7.)

    I think it's staying.
     
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    Added a Saga to the Jot yesterday and even with the stock tube I am liking the changes I am hearing. To my ears, using the tube buffer, it takes the best attributes of the Valhalla 2 (holographic soundtage, euphonics) and adds them to the Jot's strengths while also increasing the size of the soundstage a little bit. It sounds very, very good to me, even in stock form.

    I also have a PSVANE tube on the way that should be a noticeable upgrade over the stock tube, whenever it gets here. So far though, I am liking what I hear.
     
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    Hey Everyone,. I'm new here so if I post something inappropriate please let me know. Quick question, I just hooked up my Jot to a pure I-20 and am getting a terrible ground loop(I think). I tested my Jot and even though it's has a three prong plug I'm not getting a ground on the casing. Can anyone tell me if that is right?
     
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    Recently purchased some Monoprice Balanced to SE cables... a set of male and female XLR ends. Really nice especially the wire they use and price, it's flexible and thick. For example my Mani's going into the XLR here... and plugged in the XLR out to show the cable. Also you can plug them into each other & get a long SE cable.

    If you need another SE input/output these are nice. They're probably the price of an adapter, you get the cable for free!

    Just FYI, thought it was good utility and better than expected quality...
     
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    I have but one question if I may...a small one about a flavour of the Jotunheim, I do not mean how the metal tastes like after licking (cannot say I do not feel like licking someone's Jotunheim...|, just a detail about the "brightness" - just seeing some impressions here and there, one does get a few impressions suggesting brighter character, but does it not apply just for the combo with optional DAC?
     
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    Jotunheim without the builtin DAC has very bright treble. I found it much too harsh and fatiguing for my tastes (even with HD650) but other people like it a lot. The bright treble, punch and fast transients are further increased by using the balanced output. This amplifier requires careful component matching (HD800 would likely be a bad match up). Joutunheim also exhibits a relatively flat soundstage.
     
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    This is where the Saga comes in and makes everything better. It improves on the Jot's soundstage immensely* and gives the amp a touch of much needed warmth with the Saga in buffered mode. I liked the Jot out of the box but I like it so much better with the Saga that I can't imagine going back.

    *The soundstage (soundscape?) that the Sagaheim offers (especially with a great tube) vastly improves on instrument positioning and separation. It adds that cool effect where you can "see" into the music with your ears as long as you are listening to a recording that isn't just canned electronica. I'm running a Psvane 6SN7 (new issue) in the Saga and it is very impressive although the stock tube is far from poor.
     
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    So basically we talk sort of a hybrid amp, I like it.

    Ah, I thought the brightness has been tied up really just to Jotu in tandem with a optional DAC. You gave me a thing, or two, or three to think about - an additional brightness is the very last thing I would like to bring to my chain right now (Mr.Speakers Alpha Dogs and HD6XX)...well, hell, we will see.
     

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