Schiit Vidar Impression Thread - UPDATED WITH REVIEW (CHECK FIRST POST)

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  1. Forza AudioWorks

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    Ah, I must've missed that. Thanks!
     

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    For speakers with 89dB spl (2.83VRMS, 1m), would you recommend one Vidar or 2 used as monoblocks?
     
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    You're likely good with one unless you have a very large room and/or prefer insane volumes. What's the rated impedance? Also do you have a true balanced output preamp like Freya (required to run Vidar as monoblock)?
     
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    Impedance is 8 Ohm and they're rated for 50-300W. Not a large room, just normal and no insane levels.

    Nope, I don't have a Freya or other balanced preamp but I'm looking to get into Schiit.

    Something like Freya/Vidar/Mjolnir.
    Was doubting about Ragnarok with a Vidar instead of the Freya/Mjolnir at first and use the speaker outs of the Ragnarok for a pair of bookshelf speakers but I think I like the versatility of the Freya/Mjolnir system more with the three gain stages and SS/Tube option of the Mjolnir. Also, they're separates.
     
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    I have Freya/Vidar/Mjolnir 2 and it is a versatile setup. I run Elac B6’s (87db 6 ohm) and the single Vidar drives the hell out of them. The Freya in tube mode is like a high-gain switch as well. If you are going after high sensitivity speakers, I would get Saga instead.
     
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    Should be ample for my speakers then, thanks!
     
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    Definitely - some folks with very high sensitivity speakers (e.g. 93db+) have reported too much gain from the Freya/Vidar combo (especially in tube gain mode), but I don't believe you'll have that issue especially since most speakers end up actually measuring out 1-3db below their rating (some even more so).
     
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    It's not so much there is too much gain as you have to be very selective with tubes as any noise from the tubes is amplified. I actually like the gain I get from Freya in tube gain mode with the amp I have as it puts the volume setting right in the middle of the range at my normal listening levels. This allows for enough amplifier power headroom when I am listening to tracks with 21dB of dynamic range.

    Saga would clearly be a better choice if you don't need balanced connecters or the gain.
     
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    Probably not going to get much response here to this question since Marantz isn’t much discussed but I’ll ask it anyway.
    Does anyone have an idea if Freya/Vidar combo would outperform a Marantz PM-11 S3 at half the price?
    Anyone heard the Marantz premium Series? I have the PM-11 by the way.
     
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    Been looking at the Vidar. I am new to this learning. Planning to get a Kef R500 to match with a vidar but the specs seems that thd Vidar provide only half the max watts the Kef R500 can take.

    If i use two Vidars, it might be too much for thd Kef R500.

    Any thoughts? Are my assumptions correct?
     
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    I kind of doubt you will have to use all 100 watts of a single Vidar 100% of the time unless your room is the size of a gym. However, the Kefs are low sensitivity so 2 Vidars will provide more headroom for those dynamic swings. Don't worry about the "too much power" thing, thats never a real concern with speakers, the amp will only provide as much power as is called for. With those speakers and in a normal size room you will probably use way less than 75~100 watts the vast majority of the time, if not 100%.

    Depending on your room size, I think you could get away with one Vidar, but the Vidar Monos might be a great match for low sensitivity 8 ohm speakers.
     
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    I'm thinking of doing this. I've got a pair of bi-amped Maggie 3.6s (custom built active xover to replicate original passive xover).

    Actualy also llooking to run a Magnepan tri-center with a CCR and a pair of MMC2 for tri-center usage, so maybe I'll try a 3rd Vidar.
     
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    I have a stock pair of 3.6r with another 2 vidar coming to do this as well, i already have 1, so ill have 3 in total to play with, thinking of going the biamp route like Marvey says for L,R. I have mmc2 center with a dwm bass panel, 3 matching amps in LCR should be interesting. Even with just one just Vidar for L,R, the bass and clarity is much better than my B&K reference 200.7. The B&K has been powering the center and 2 Mini Maggie satellite rears, not super ideal, would prefer a slightly bigger panel, but there's the whole WAF factor I have to appease, the minis do an adequate job. I already had to give up my SVS PB12/Plus 2 lol, oh well, maybe there's a JTR Captivator S1 in my future.
     
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