shotgunshane’s IEM (custom and universal) recommendations, favorites and classics

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  1. shotgunshane

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    Soranik Ion

    For more info on Soranik, a manufacture from Vietnam, check out Mr. T’s write up on CYMBACAVUM: https://cymbacavum.com/2016/05/13/quick-thoughts-ion-by-soranik/

    The Ion is a warm and smooth universal in-ear with a focus on bass and male vocals. The overall signature is on the V shaped side and is reminiscent of the FitEar TG334 and Oriolus MKII (both of which I no longer have on hand, but both of which instantly come to mind upon listening to the Ion); perhaps not as smooth as the Oriolus and not as bassy as the Fitear, the Ion comfortably splits the difference. The Ion sounds spacious from front to back yet with intimate and engaging vocals. Similar to the TG334, the Ion sticks a good bit out of the ear but is completely comfortable to wear. It also uses the same pin and connectors as FitEar as well.

    vs. Lime Ears Aether
    (Aether demo with switches in the neutral position)
    The Ion is fuller, thicker and richer sounding with more emphasis across the bass band, whereas the Aether is more accentuated in sub bass. The Ion has more lower midrange emphasis on male vocals with a more intimate presentation. In comparison the Aether sounds a little more aloof and distant. Aether presents rock guitars with more air and bite compared to the more laid back Ion. While treble presence is relatively similar the Aether’s better presence in upper mids lends to slightly more air and staging width, however the Ion’s treble timbre is more natural and staging is much more spacious from front to back. In comparison the Aether sounds a little more neutral and the Ion more warm and lush.

    vs. Campfire Audio Andromeda
    Again the Ion is fuller and thicker of note with more overall bass emphasis, but whereas Ion stays full from deep bass into upper bass and the lower midrange, Andromeda’s bass emphasis is targeted towards deeper bass. Male vocals sound more intimate and chesty with Ion’s lower midrange emphasis. In comparison Andromeda’s midrange comes across as more linear and balanced, providing a touch of intimacy to male and more energy to female vocals. While treble presence is again similar, Andromeda sounds airier and more spacious in the upper registers. While Andromeda doesn’t quite sound as deep front to back, it sounds much wider and spacious overall. The Ion sounds more grounded, smokey and reverberant.

    vs. Perfect Seal Deca (custom,bass edition)
    The Deca has much more comparable bass emphasis. Both plumb the depths and provide lots of impact. Perhaps their differences come down to speed and decay. The Ion seems to linger a little longer with more reverberation. Both have full and intimate male vocals but the Ion has it’s greatest emphasis on the lower midrange, and the Deca has more focus in the middle midrange. So while Ion sounds a little richer with more heft, Deca sounds more forward and closer to the listener. The two models really depart from each other in the highs. Whereas the Ion rebounds with lots of sparkle, the Deca tapers off and has much more laid back top end. Again the Ion is unmatched in depth front to back and Deca edges out Ion in width but as previously mentioned sounds closer and more upfront.
     
  2. Nordpol Anton

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    Thanks for that ranking!

    If I wouldn´t have the possibility to try the Fourte and the U18, why would I want to have the one or the other?
    Or in other words: what do you think is the difference in sound and technical performance between those two models?
     
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    The description reads remarkably similar to my impressions of the Fitear Parterre.
     
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    Just ordered the Orions that were on sale at headphonebar. Let's see how I like'em. If not, one of my classmates just got hitched and he's an audiophile too, so I figure they'd make a good wedding gift.
     
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    I haven't had the chance to hear the Parterre but I would think lovers of the TG334 and Oriolus MKII would definitely be interested in the Ion.

    I forgot to mention the Ion is a 5 balanced armature design.
     
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    Beyond the differences/ranking mentioned in that summary, a proper response will have to wait until I finish my full-review of those two (which is mostly down to editing now, but I keep getting distracted).

    A short version, however, would be that the U18 is more neutral than the tia Fourté, and if you wanted neutrality, don't mind "BA bass", fancied being able to swap modules to get a bit more low-end, or can't manage the extra $600 then the U18 is a good portion of the tia Fourté's overall performance. Though for me, I'd want the custom version of the U18 (the A18) ... for universal I'd just buy the tia Fourté.

    Now, the tia Fourté is more resolving and impactful in the bass and mid-range, has a slightly downward sloping response (it is slight) and has a tendency to "make you listen actively" where as the U18 was less likely to have that effect on me.

    I'm going to wind up with both the tia Fourté and an A18 ... since there are times when I want "all the detail all the time" and times when I'm listening to relax. Both are excellent. But to be more specific than that it'll have to wait for my full review.
     
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    Thanks Torq, that´s more info than I could have hoped for. As I´m looking for a neutral IEM, the A18 seems to be the better choice. When I once tested the CA Vega with the DD bass so many praised, I was (in comparison to the ProPhile 8) underwhelmed, so as I said, I guess I will be looking out for the A18. Thanks again and I´m looking forward to your full review!
     
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    I just shipped off the AAW tour demos. While the other models didn't really do anything for me, the W900 is pretty special. It's going on the list. Here are some thoughts from my loaner:

    The AAW W900 has a polite, yet engaging signature that makes for an excellent all rounder. It sounds pretty even, without any noticeable spikes or peaks in treble, however treble does sound shelved down compare to the rest of the frequency response. This makes the signature a bit bassier than expected. While listening in a quite environment, for critical listening, I find myself wishing for a bit less bass but when on the go, in noisier environs, the bass levels are very welcome. Overall the signature sort of reminds me of a bassier UERR, due to the shelved down treble, yet the W900 treble presence is better than I remember from the UERR and it certainly doesn’t sound quite as midcentric either. Ok, maybe it doesn’t really remind of a bassier UERR. Regardless, the W900 simply sounds fantastic.

    Vs Campfire Andromeda
    Andromeda is much more sensitive and doesn’t take anywhere near as much turn of the dap volume wheel to get to the same loudness. After adjusting volumes, the first noticeable difference is the more palpable nature of the W900’s dynamic driver. It feels fuller and lingers longer but seems to only be just a little more boosted overall. Andromeda is U shaped signature, so while it’s midrange is pretty even and flat, it’s slightly behind the bass. Conversely the W900 doesn’t dip thru the lower midrange, producing a fuller, more intimate sounding midrange. This bass and midrange response give the W900 its fuller, richer, warmer note and tone. Compared to Andromeda, the W900 has noticeably less treble presence. It sounds more laid back and relaxed. While it still has good treble resolution and extension, it definitely requires more concentration next to Andromeda, which sounds airier, more resolving and more forward in treble detail. Andromeda sounds a good bit wider left to right, as well as a bit taller overall, while both sound quite similar in depth. While Andromeda excels in spaciousness, in comparison the W900 sounds a little more forward and intimate.

    Vs InEar ProPhile-8
    The PP8 is noticeable leaner and more neutral sounding. While extending quite deep in bass, the PP8 bass is leaner, less warm and faster sounding. Even though the W900 bass sounds pretty even across the spectrum, the amount of boost is quite evident when comparing with something much more reference like the PP8. Moving through the midrange, the PP8 again sounds more even through the midrange. Female vocals have more energy and male vocals sound less full and chesty. W900 vocals sound more lower midrange focused, less energetic and less in your face. Treble timbre between the two is pretty similar while presence between the two is slightly different, with the PP8 sounding brighter overall. Width between the two sounds pretty similar but the PP8 sounds much more upfront. While the W900 sounds further away, it also sound much noticeably deeper in stage.

    The W900 demos are pretty small and it’s quite easy to achieve very comfortable fit. The cable reminds me somewhat of the Campfilre stock litz cable. However the AAW cable feels a bit cheaper and less well made, and the plastic stress reliefs after the memory section seem completely unnecessary on an otherwise very likable and practical cable. Minor complaints aside, this cable is much preferable to typical stock cables. If I didn’t already own the Andromeda and PP8, I would definitely put the W900 on my shortlist. It’s easily the best hybrid in-ear I’ve heard to date and really just sounds fantastic overall. My understanding is that the full custom may sound a hair bassier/warmer than the demo, which is also the AAW universal housing. Considering how easy it was to get a good fit and my preferences for more neutral signatures, I suspect the full custom might be a bit much for me in bass. If I were to buy, I'd definitely go with the universal.
     
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    hope i am not jinxing myself ... but someone on a local forum just listed a pair of year old Parterre for approx $500 usd i'm awaiting his response ... fingers crossed
     
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    While I really like the overall feel of the AAW900, I really missed some air in the treble. And the mid bass impact could be a bit fatiguing.
     
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    I know you own the SE5 Ultimate and EE Zeus yes?

    How would you rate the AAW900 on resolution and pure detail retrieval against those two?
     
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    Hum...I don't have the Zeus and AAW900 anymore...from memory the AAW900 plays in the same league, Zeus XIV will have an edge in mids resolution, SE5 Ultimate will be more detailed in highs maybe.
     
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    Thanks Mim.

    Later on in the day i'll be trying out the AAW900 . Kinda excited to see how it pairs with my wm1z and how different it is compared to my Andros.

    Can't wait!
     
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    Im looking for some CIEMs around the 800USD mark. Live in Australia and enjoy sparkly treble extension and deep sub bass. Listen to lots of electronica like Boards of Canada. Unfortunately its really hard to demo things here and I'm trying not to make a costly mistake. EE Spartans look interesting as does the UERR, although judging by opinions here it may be a bit laid back for me.
     
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    Wouldn't call the UERR sparkly. It's more dark and smooth. You might like the Andromeda + custom tips instead, not sure about Empire Ears, haven't heard any since the distributor/retailer moved into a remote part of Singapore.
     
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    i love BoC as well, B-stock Andro, Dorado or Jupiter immediately came to mind.

    Stagediver 4 or Xelento perhaps?

    more economical yet ime, rather satisfying alternatives are the ex1000, ibasso IT03 and the oriolous forsteni.

    no direct experience but perhaps relevant are the jomo 6 or Galaxy
     
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    Can you name any universals or other ciems you've heard that you like? I think UERR would be too laid back/midcentric for what you want and perhaps the Spartans not strong enough in bass but I could be reading your needs wrong.
     
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    Anyone hear the hifiman re800s? Another potential contender for the that elusive flagship-worthy DD crown.
     
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    Have you found a company to do custom tips for CA lineup?
     
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    Their tips are like TF10s, so it should not be a problem. I just don't like them enough to get tips for them. Might even let them go.
     

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