Stan: no one remembers what this thread was about and that's a good thing

Hello, sirs,

please forgive me if I am not introducing myself in the dedicated thread, it would be a waste of time as this is intended to be my first and last post here.

When Alvin, Which I consider a friend even if we didn't ever meet in person, several months ago told me that he was sending an Ares and a Pontus to SBAF members, I strongly discouraged him, for two reasons.

First and main reason was that these are R2R Dacs, with similar technology of best sellers Schiit ones, but better sounding and less expensive, so very dangerous competitors for Schiit, and SBAF is universally known as a nest of Schiit fanboys, at a point that, here in Europe, we often say "Try to be objective, we are not on SBAF here". So I was sure that it was a a trap, and the DACs would be trashed regardless of their actual performance.

Second reason was that, I bet, none of you, or very few, has ever listened to the real sound of a violin or piano, not to say a serious orchestra, while here in Europe, and in Italy in particular, real instruments are present in every home, and we know very well their sound, more, many of us also play one of them. You simply are not able to judge the quality of a source in reproducing faithful and correct timbre and decay of real instruments, and this is maybe the aspect in which Denafrips Dacs excel more, but they are excellent in many others parameters.

So this outcome, with the vulgarity of terms used, was exactly what I expected from this forum, and I can say that maybe in USA someone could take seriously these ridiculously biased opinions, not in the rest of the world, and by sure nobody that actually listened to these DACS in good faith.

If interested, you can find my (sincere) review of Pontus here: https://head-fi.org/showcase/denafrips-pontus-r2r-discrete-ladder-dac.22389/reviews

Regards

 

Nice assumption bro,

Sorry that you think North Americans are uncultured, and savage. I just wanted to enlighten you, but a huge part of North America emigrated from Europe and brought their musical traditions with them, not too mention many other culturally rich countries outside of Europe, that made North America their home.

You set the trap for a text beat down, but I'm not so sure you're going to get the response you are trying to bait.

EDIT: Oh well, looks like people did take the bait, and have started the ass kicking. Good luck !!!

 

I find it funny that you refused to go to the intro thread as it would be a waste of time, but you took the time to fill in your age, location, etc when creating a profile here.

Dang, creating a profile itself and posting was a waste of time, innit?

 

This review is so head-fi it hurts

Babble Babble Babble

Babble Stax Babble

Use of incredible, organic, and intoxicating but not actually describing sound

Babble


Lastly, as an Italian I bet you don't know the sound of a real electric guitar or a proper drum kit. At birth every american learns how to play the Hendrix Version of the Star Spangled Banner or Van Halen Drum Solo at begging of Hot for Teacher.

 

So the shill-storm begins...

Nice try. Real instruments are NOT present in every home in Europe -- you must be a fool to believe this, or to believe that others (esp. all the Europeans hanging around here) will buy this. You're quite obviously making an appeal to authority, and it rests on thin air.

Go back on HF and shill away there.

 

Way to pigeonhole every American. Many of us are very experienced with instruments of all kinds. In addition, did you think that there are no Europeans or people from other countries on this forum? in fact we have many members here from Europe and Asia who smell your BS. "Here in Europe, we often say..". Please.. I'm sure this happens all over Europe. It's probably the Italian national motto. If you're going to post here in attempt to show some kind of superiority and minimize the truth about bad gear then you're not helping your cause when you display this level of ignorance and transparent bullschiit. In the words of the great Don Rickles - "Dummy."

 

@Auditor:
please research:
Are the newer generation Metrum Acoustic dacs trashed on SBAF?
Is the new Soekris dac1541 trashed here?
Is the Holo audio Spring dac being trashed here?

BTW I am European: I am Belgian and living in Germany. Please exclude me from your "Europeans" list.
Schiit dacs, especially Yggdrasil and Gungir MB are very well regarded by discerning ears here too.

 

Okay, a lot of words, but what exactly are you trying to say?

I mean, you get so preachy about listening to REAL instruments, but then a statement like this shows inherent bias based on complexity of electronic circuitry. What gives?

Yeah, you randomly threw out a magic number.

"I think I have a small dick, but people who have seen it tell me that it is ginormous".

Also, there is nothing humble about this.

I get that you're a 30 year veteran, but you don't have to be so dramatic.

What does digital glare have anything to do with resolution?

Stop exaggerating, please.

That you bring up the 'no-nameness' of Denafrips so many times in your review suggests that this advice is best suited to you.

 

(Since this thread will soon have the TWFIP purge)

Of all things... @Auditor, TL;DR: You're not the only one posting sincere reviews. But yours reads like ad-copy.

Edit: Revised at request.

 

I believe Ares received a relatively favourable review elsewhere on SBAF:

http://www.superbestaudiofriends.or...sil-watering-the-ash.4036/page-34#post-157675

Depending on one's taste, it was described a being at a similar level to the Modi MB - which isn't too shabby

Maybe, the Pontus just isn't to the taste of @Hands, he is known to prefer a more smooth presentation and NOS DACs in particular, after all? IIRC, he is not a huge fan of Yggdrasil either because of its forward nature (apologies if I have that wrong). The Pontus could possibly be just right for others?

I think when reviewing donated equipment, it is perhaps best to be more diplomatic. But then, we still need to remain objective and unbiased. I imagine, it is a difficult line to walk.

 

I have been reading Hands´ comments and reviews for a long time. They are mostly finely differentiating, regardless of his personal taste (mine is a bit different). He is one of the golden ears here for me. When he calls Pontus a not so very good dac (polite mode), it definetely is not going to be on my shortlist. Please let´s not become too diplomatic, there is enough other places for that. I think Torq heard the Pontus as well and I am looking forward to hear his comments!

 

The shoes required is the participant of a Denafrips fan page if that helps you frame it properly.

Edit: Revised at request.

 

Mmmmhh.... expected responses, expected tone of them. I could not care less.

Only one thing: I referred to this forum only and to its "objective" reviewers. Not the minimal offense to american people in general, among them I have several friends and count lots of first class musicians, and artists in general.

 

You cared so little, that you read a single review and launched into an impassioned defense of a DAC oh so wronged by all of the SBAF community and their inferior discerning ears.

Go f**k yourself.

 

I thought you were leaving...

 

Meh, typical "I don't know crap about this site nor do I care to so I'll help my bro out by shotgunning my condescending thoughts about the haters here" post. Same ol shit ends up in the same ol making friends subforum. It's not so much that it's old, but it's more it's boring.