The HD800 & HD800S thread

Discussion in 'Headphones' started by sorrodje, Oct 11, 2015.

  1. Illya

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    Has anyone tried the HD800's (non S) with a HeadAmp GSX MK2 or Liquid Gold?
     
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    Marv already told you to stop with this kind of question, and here you are doing it again.
     
  3. Illya

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    alright sorry I will stop, just got so many questions and I don't really know where else to ask. Don't have any HiFi shops near me ( well not unless I want to drive 2 hours) which I don't have a car, plus no irl friends who know a thing about audio so RIP.
     
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    It's not so much asking questions as it is the way you're phrasing them. You're asking about 2 amps with no context or preference. Absolutely NO to the GSX MK 2 with the HD800 or any bright headphone.
     
  5. Illya

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    yeah sorry I need to get better with asking these kind of questions, never been in a forum before this ( well the last few days actually). I will start thinking more carefully about the questions I have between amps and what not. Thanks for the reply.
     
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    Go to a local SBAF/Head-Fi meet or a hi-fi store. Chances are there will be HD 600/650/800 there and you can hear them for yourself.
     
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    I can relate to the desire to find the "perfect" pairing for your headphones, especially since you feel like you've researched and found your ideal headphone. The thing is, you have to move on from the mindset that you're going to find the amp that everyone agrees is the "best" amp out there for the HD800. If you go this route, you'll either never find an answer and never buy and amp, or you'll just pick something based on reading a particularly positive thread about that amp. As others have already said, there are good pairings based on what your preferences in music type and sound signature are. If you tell us what type of music you listen to and what things you didn't like about your previous headphones, then perhaps others could give you more specific advice about what amp would help you find what you are looking for.

    And on the topic of what sound signature you're looking for, there's a good chance your preferences will change as you get used to the characteristics of the HD800 and as you listen to more equipment. My dad's favorite saying is "You don't know what you don't know," and I think it applies here. You may feel like you know exactly what you are looking for sound wise, but honestly, you may not know what you really like or what is even possible until you actually spend some dedicated time with gear and start to get to know the ins and outs of them.

    Honestly, at some point you just have to narrow your choices and just commit to something instead of trying to read up about every amp out there. I know it's tempting to make the big purchase and try and find your "endgame" setup right off the bat, but it doesn't necessarily work that way. Why not just get a good budget setup (Modi Multibit+schiit amp of your choice), use that for some time and figure out its shortcomings, and then upgrade once you've had the chance to either listen to more stuff at meets or have better honed in on what you are looking for?
     
  9. Illya

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    I would love to but there isn't one near me at all, don't have the money nor the transportation to go to NY which i believe is the next HiFi meet.
     
  10. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Absolutely. Everyone who has built systems around the HD800 should immediately sell everything and buy Ether Flow Opens and Questyle DACs and amps.
     
  11. Psalmanazar

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    so why are you asking about gear that costs thousands of dollars? Just buy an hd 600/650 out of a schiit stack. a modi -> vali 2 maybe with a tube upgrade is a good choice. you probably listen to flat, compressed, and clipped videogame and anime soundtracks based on your avatar so you might want to do Modi Multibit (veil and separation) to 650 (slightly dark) with a tube upgrade.

    even better and cheaper if you don't care about about bass extension or punch that much would be a cheap audio interface (steinbergs tend to actually work more often than the focusrites) to a pair of jbl lsr 305 powered near field speakers. those are on sale both at massdrop (not free shipping) and amazon (2 day free shipping and easier return policy). stick them on cheap stands (or coffee cans filled with sand) for a good desktop setup cheaper than any decent headphone rig.
     
  12. Illya

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    you'll have to give me some time to answer that first and second paragraph and btw thanks for being understanding and I am sorry for not being concise about what I am looking for. So the reason why I don't want to get a mid level budget setup ( although you guys have no idea how much making a choice between amps is killing me ugh) is that I don't have a lot of money to just throw away, and I don't really see the point of buying a mid level setup if all I am going to do is just look for something better in the near future. This goes in with the money thing, I am getting into this at a young age ( well i mean im 20) but its more on the lines of I don't make a ton of money. Getting tax returns is pretty much my gateway into getting something high end. You guys don't know me personally (not an insult in any way just haven't spoken about my mindset really yet) but I don't want to just keep buying mid tier stuff over and over again, I instead just want to dive straight into a high end setup. That is the reason I bought HD800's I have owned many many many pairs of mid tier headphones ( ive spent over 3 to 4 k o mid tier headphones) and I just told myself nothing is gonna be good enough until I get something high end. I know I probably sound really arrogant but thats just how my mind works.
     
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    Just buy an amp that holds value. If you like it you can keep it, it you dislike it you've got the option to sell.

    Mind you that this is looking at things purely based on your lack of proximity to a store and a monetary perspective.
     
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    @Illya , stop posting and please start reading. If you think Schiit is mid-fi that you are throwing money away buying, then you have a lot to learn.

    EDIT: spawn of GUTB?
     
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    Modi Multibit -> vali 2 if you haven't or don't want to mod the hd 800

    if you mod: Bifrost Multibit/emotiva dc-1/Gungnir Multibit (if you can afford) -> asgard 2/mjolnir 2 (if Gungnir Multibit)/whatever you have no money so get something you can sell later

    I'm done advice you.
     
  16. Illya

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    I know Schiit probably makes best bang for your buck amps and dacs but what you're saying is something like a modi and vali combo will exceed stuf that costs 3 to 5x more? not trying to insult you if thats how it comes off just a question. plus it just kinda boggles me that if I spent 1400 dollars on headphones and only spent like 300 to 400 dollars on a amp and dac setup that it would do it justice. plus this is probably just coming from people who have way more money to blow than what i could ever dream of, people have said that with the HD800's you need some high end stuff to do them justice and to get the most out of them. So idk spending so little money just seems crazy to me for as much as these headphones and well other high end headphones cost.
     
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    you pose questions like a 14 year old living at home and asking for validation of every idea under the sun. we don't want to get to know you personally.
    @Marvey how about a 14 day ban on posting to give this soul time to *read posts*, think and digest information beyond simple replies to redundant queries?
     
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    @Illya You're looking for a high-end headphone setup and tired spending money on mid-fi? Buy Lynx card+ Yggdrasil + ECBA +HD650 and stop looking for higher sky. Then spend money for good music, take a break and/or stepping up to TT + speakers. Don't let yourself suffer from G.A.S.

    And probably a writing course, eh?
     
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    most headphone gear is crap as is most of everything. Schiit makes low cost, high value products that usually perform well even if everything they make has a sound as does almost every other piece of audio gear not a passive preamp.

    There is no other personal audio gear company on the planet making gear as good for as low a cost other than maybe Meier if you are in Continental Erope. the LH Labs stuff feel underpowered for Senns. The Chinese stuff is crap: Matrix's headphone gear is deliberately colored rolled op amps, FiiO totally sucks, and AGD is garbage outside of PCM 1704 based DACs which I think are still garbage.
     
  20. FallingObjects

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    @Illya, My advice is to stop posting for a few days, DEFINITELY stop apologizing every second or third post (it's grating to read, and makes you look clueless), and lurk more in general until you figure what it is you actually want, and what this place can offer.

    Edit for clarification: If you find yourself feeling the need to apologize every second or third post, then you might not be putting enough thought or effort into your initial posts.
     

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