The Mike Moffat (#2 at Schiit) Blog

Discussion in 'SBAF Blogs' started by baldr, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. Metro

    Metro Rando

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2016
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    San Francisco
    For a CD player to use BWD internally, that means it comes bundled with a DAC. To get Yggdrasil level performance, it would be like buying an extra Yggdrasil along with the CD player.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2017

  2. bengo

    bengo Almost "Made"

    Contributor
    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Likes Received:
    187
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    UK
    Home Page:

    @baldr Maybe this is a really dumb question, but how / why would BWD help in the modern world, when your (higher end) DACs are isolating and reclocking all the inputs anyway? It seems like BWD vs I2S is more like an internal implementation detail inside the DAC.
     
  3. Rotijon

    Rotijon Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2015
    Likes Received:
    264
    Trophy Points:
    63

    Or media player...
     
    dmckean44 and elguapo like this.
  4. Dyohn

    Dyohn 8 posts and already missed the point

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2017
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Arizona
    Schiit could create a stand-alone CD transport with standard digital outs PLUS proprietary BWD out, and then offer a BWD input upgrade for Yggdrasil...
     
  5. Marvey

    Marvey Loves sex and records

    Staff Member Friend Banned
    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2015
    Likes Received:
    22,981
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Calabasas, CA
    We know this is going to happen. I'm not even going to consider that it might. Too many signs and historical precedent.

    Back in the Cambrian or Jurassic era, Mike pioneered the SPDIF over ATT / ST glass, and that sounded better than AES, at least from the Theta Data III transport to Gen V or SFD. I bet none of you have heard it.

    BWD will be the next Schiit digital transfer thing, from CD Transport to DAC.

    The better CD spinners still sound better than Eitr (or BADA) USB converters. But Eitr is making it close at too much of a bargain. Mike knows the CD spinners can sound even better past SPDIF or I2S.

    That's my prediction. Let's wish Mike good health and transfer one day of our own lifespans to him.
     
    A1Gear, msommers, Merrick and 8 others like this.
  6. dmckean44

    dmckean44 Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Likes Received:
    149
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    San Diego
    I hope we see it, but I'm not really sure how BWD fits in with Manhatten Project and it's focus on modifiying the digital bitstream. Are those two things really compatible with each other?
     
  7. baldr

    baldr Schiit-sterer

    Friend
    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2015
    Likes Received:
    1,085
    Trophy Points:
    83
    OK – some definitions of Schiit R&D stuff given my history of narratives, complete and in progress as well as comments in various contexts:

    BWD = a connectivity standard which is my fave, either between digital audio components, or internal use in converters.

    Manhattan Project = a music processor of which we are working on various versions. These can be applied to anything from audio as a better recreational drug (think chronic) to Soylent Green class societies.

    Sol = our upcoming turntable (to play flat black records).

    Plus, two upcoming products. Could be anything from wet-dreams to brilliant ideas.

    Lastly, one product in feasibility studies.

    Oh, and Jason is working on several as well.
     
    A1Gear, FlySweep, elguapo and 21 others like this.
  8. Dyohn

    Dyohn 8 posts and already missed the point

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2017
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Arizona
    I am exceedingly curious about Manhattan Project. When your prototype is ready for public impressions, let us know. I might make the drive from Phoenix to the Shiitr for that.
     
  9. Darren G

    Darren G Almost "Made"

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2017
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, PA
    Really good to read the insights from Mike who has deep knowledge of the clock problem, and has done so much to solve it.

    I wanted to give +1 to the idea above of a portable media player, but built like a Schiit tank (vs a Chinese flash in the pan). CD's are good, I have plenty, but I'd also rather much load up a portable device with music and use that as my source. Stick a USB 3 or SATA interface on it for those of us who have copies of our optical discs as files to be played.
     
  10. msommers

    msommers Wow, I made it this far without being a friend?

    Contributor
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2016
    Likes Received:
    363
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Edmonton, Alberta
    A high quality Schiit version of a Squeezebox Touch and server system would be awesome. PS Audio is working on something like that called Octave with their own software but I know it's going to be horrendously expensive and totally unnecessary.
     
    Darren G likes this.
  11. Dyohn

    Dyohn 8 posts and already missed the point

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2017
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Arizona
    If you need a Squeezebox replacement look at offerings from Sonore, and match up with your USB DAC.
     
  12. msommers

    msommers Wow, I made it this far without being a friend?

    Contributor
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2016
    Likes Received:
    363
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Edmonton, Alberta
    Sonore is way too overpriced for what it is, imho.
     
    Larry Megugorac likes this.
  13. MrButchi

    MrButchi Gear Master Europe

    Staff Member Friend
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Likes Received:
    230
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    Paris
    Holy cow. That'd be so sexy.
    Except for the part where Jason has repeatedly said that he won't put up with anything that contains the words "soft" and "ware" or "U" and "I"...
    But imagine something that might be DLNA compatible to be driven by JRiver or Roon, and with a BWD output to a BWD input upgrade to the Yggy... *drool*
     
    Darren G and msommers like this.

Share This Page