The Stax I thread

Discussion in 'Headphones' started by knerian, Mar 28, 2016.

  1. Kattefjaes

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    So, how's the comfort of the L500 in comparison to the L300? I know the L300's thin pads also annoy some people, but do the yokes also differ?
     
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    The L700 and L500 are similarly flawed. The parts circled in red will prevent the top of the cups from rotating past the yokes/gimbals. If you have even a normal sized head, you'll likely have fit issues such as @OlafR has described, pressure along the top and poor seal at the bottom. I have no idea what Stax is doing releasing an anniversary product with this not being addressed.

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    L700
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    Excellent post, yaluen. Seems I was wrong in assuming that the L700 was better constructed. Bizarre stuff, considering what one is used to from Stax in this department.
     
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    Humour me.

    My SR-303 have those little tabs, but I made sure that they're on the outside of the forked holders- as that's where they're supposed to go, like this (not my picture):

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    If I assemble the headphones with the tab inside, like on your L-300 picture, they fit badly, as you describe. Pop one leg out of the capsule holder, and move the tab outside before re-attaching the holder, and see how you go.

    Yeah, I know. Curiosity. Can't be helped.
     
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    Alas I don't think that would work. Take note where the tabs are on the advanced lambdas, right next to the pads, whereas they're near the outside edge of the cups on the old lambdas. I no longer have my L300, but I believe you'll just end up having a big gap between your temples and the pads. Besides, the flared baffle is wider than the space between the legs and will prevent you from putting things back together.

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    Damnit, now curiosity is going to drive me nuts ;)
     
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    I was borrowing my buddy's L300, L500, and L700. To be honest, from my personal experience the L700 just didn't particularly feel much more comfortable than the L300 in fit/comfort. Mostly L700 was more comfortable because of the deeper ear pads. If the L300 Limited ends up having a nearly identical sound quality as L700 at half the L700 price, I personally wouldn't spend an extra $600+ for maybe a slightly better yoke design. But comfort is very individual and subjective so it depends how big of a comfort difference that makes for you.
     
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    Found this pic on HC, couldn't find more about it.
    I think that if we take the SR-009 as a reference (named C32 before being SR-009), we'll have to wait until october for the big guns.
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    Got my 353x and l300 today... great listening system! Nice resolution without being overly technical, as in fatiguing. Thanks for the recommendation @MuppetFace!!!
     
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    Hi guys. I posted this over at head fi as well, but figured some of you guys could have some valuable input also.

     
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    I'm pretty sure the SRM-252S doesn't have anywhere near the power for driving 007s properly. They won't sound anywhere near their best. The poor thing is probably just running out of juice and/or maybe distorting?

    When you're at the 007 end of the range, you're probably better off considering something like a BHSE or a Carbon, if you can afford it (is that what "my new amp" is going to be?). If you're staying with Stax branded amps, you're going to need to go quite a long way up the range.

    Essentially don't worry if the 252 can't make the 007 sound all that good, it's a big ask.
     
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    Unfortunately I don't have the economic means for the TOTL third party amps for now, so I have purchased a Stax 727ii. I knew beforehand the 252s would not cut it for the 007, but after recognizing this shimmer/hardness/harshness, not sure what I should call it, in both 007 and l300, I wondered if this was an issue that perhaps the 252 specifically had. My personal theory is that once I plug the L300 into the 727 it will not have the same hard sound up top. Maybe I am wrong?
     
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    I can't say for sure (as I haven't heard what you're hearing so can't be 100% sure about the problem), but they should scale up somewhat, at least, yes.

    One thing, is your 727ii already fixed? If not, you'll want the 727 feedback mod, or it won't sound so great.
     
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    Not gonna lie this looks fake as all hell. Especially with the unit name having six results on google (of which two are head-fi, and one is a french blog that lists stax.co.jp as a source, which doesn't... have this.).
    I mean, we do know that STAX was planning a DAC/Amp, but... I dunno. I remain skeptical.
     
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    Skip to 53:15, is not fake.
     
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    He does not quite explain why he is super-excited over the little portable thing. Stax headphones are not very suited to portable use, if you ask me. (But there may be some excitement in seeing what happens when it starts raining, true).

    Very unpleasant audio in the interview btw, the shouting 700? Hz resonance really hurts when it "hits" the ear. People need to be more conscious about sound quality (in all kind of situations) imo.
     
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    Well, there's always "transportable" vs portable...
     

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