Z Reviews Bitching Thread

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  1. Lenroot77

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    I wonder if and when his mom will kick him out of her basement? :)
     
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    I'm guessing it will just take one incident of his violent speakers trashing the place.
     
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    That's the second time you have been able to see how, but if you can see how, then why complain when people do?

    Twenty pages? How many videos are there? I am not going to ask youtube because I don't want them in my face when I go there, which is what google/youtube does. Fair or not, it didn't take me long to decide I don't want to watch this guy. I'm not going back to review that: I have better things to do. I have not said very much about his content: that's better left to those who have watched a few.

    Reviewing the reviewer is a thing, right? Especially in areas such as audio where there is so much crap about. Frankly, even on a bad day, SBAF is very, very far from being the most unkind place on the internet. But this is not some novice enthusing about the only pair of 'phones he's ever heard, and it is not smashing such a person into the ground before they even get started. This is someone with a body of "work" who wants it to be taken seriously, but apparently, is not worth taking seriously. There are people on the internet making money from talking garbage because they happen to have nice tits. (Or, so a friend tells me) (ok, ok: I looked. Boring). At least they are not misleading anybody about what to spend their money on.

    Seems to me that what this guy is doing (as per what my [SBA]Friends tell me) is absolutely contrary to SBAF spirit. So let it be said. And if some of us enjoy taking the piss sometimes... like I said, this is still nowhere near the most unfriendly place on the net.

    And monetising is not an excuse. If anything, the opposite is true.
     
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    The fact, as @AMW1011 already said, Zeos got banned from headphones subreddit after being told NOT to post affiliated amazon links in the recommendations thread, then literally got all his drones to harass the mods until he got unbanned (I can't remember if he actually got unbanned or not) speaks volumes. He also sells anything he buys with patreon money to his patreons (only) AND holds on to manufacturer's headphones for an unreasonably long time. He's just...not great for the hobby, honestly. He's gotten sorta-better at his reviews over the years, but he still has that "everything is mostly great if its new" attitude that LinusTT has with none of the charisma.
     
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    I don't mind watching to the first bit of the reviews on build quality and usability. He makes good points on that kind of stuff. I shut off the videos once he starts getting into how stuff sounds or when he starts getting into the hentai stuff.
     
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    This is the problem I have with him. His own opinions are valid for himself on what he likes, but.... some guy on Head-fi said he bought the Stax L700 & only had it for a few days. He knew how Zeos loves Stax so he sent it to Zeos to review. He said he hadn't received it back in over 6 months!

    So Zeos was using the guy's new headphone for over half a year for free & only at the end did he do a review of it. I'm not sure if he even sent it back yet.

    If the asshole is getting near 5 grand in free donation money monthly, he sure as f**k can afford to buy that headphone himself.
     
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    Hopefully he doesn't keep my Valhalla that long...
     
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    Why are we giving this turd so much air time here? Talking about crappy signal to noise ratio!
     
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    Yeah, I find the anime illustrations of little girls he uses for his wallpapers particularly disturbing.
     
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    This is the "Z Reviews Bitching Thread", after all. He seems to have a large influence on the personal audio audience. From my point of view, he is a very negative influence. It seems mysterious how he has worked his way into the position he is in. I'm learning things about the guy that I didn't know, and finding it somewhat interesting. We don't have a GUTB, mtoc , Big D or other strange one around these days. Ever notice how many people would be watching the threads when they were going full steam? Must be something to do with human nature.
     
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    Consistent stream of updates of gear that is widely popular in one way or another. Compare his video output to some of the other youtube audio gear channels & he far outpaces their work output. Might be because all he has is a Go-Pro strapped to his head & just talks from the hip rather than having any kind of script, editing or rehearsal.

    He is honest to what he likes & doesn't like, I'll give him that. He pulls no punches to what doesn't impress him.
    A few people, if any, would go out & admit they flat out don't like the Stax 009/007, Sennheisher HD800, Hifiman HE1000 & HE-6 & would recommend a Stax L300 over all of them.
     
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    He has audience and that's what probably keeps him going. 100k+ views? Damn, no wonder at all.
     
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    I think he was banned from /r/headphones for spaffing affiliate Amazon links for stuff he was shilling. Classy, no?
     
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    At least he's honest... err... Are shills honest?
     
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    We're Schiit shills, aren't we honest?
     
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    I would say that SBAF being Schills is more than anything a figure of speech, and mostly a play on words. Yes, Schiit is strongly favored here, but for good reasons given SBAF's ethos and Schiit's performance.
     
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    If you believe that he is schilling, then he would benefit greatly from downgrading the expensive gear and extolling the virtues of affordable stuff. His viewer base is comprised of reddit/newcomers to personal audio who don't have the money to buy the really expensive equipment. He can't be head-fi and say that the top end models are the best and that everyone should go buy them because most of his viewers can't afford to. He'd make no money from his affiliate links. If he says that things like the Stax L300 or the Audio GD NFB-1 are better than the HD800, then he can convince his viewers that they too can get a piece of high end audio for much less and they'll be more likely to spend a good amount of money through his links (I'm not saying that you can't get a great setup without spending lots of money; it's just that he is highly incentivized to convince people to convince his audience that achieving the pinnacle of audio is within their reach and that anything more is either not worth it or just flat out worse).
     
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    Watched his latest review last night and he was actually trying to describe what he was hearing. Still can't take any of it seriously but I do find him spending time on build quality and comfort helpful.
     
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    I watch him to discover new audio equipment but don't take him seriously beyond that. He's comfortable and natural--he has charisma in comparison to other reviewers--but his descriptions of sound are generic and vague and prone to hyperbole, which is, if you're a newcomer to this hobby, misleading. The Monolith m1060's are not the best headphones under $1000 but that's an example of a claim he's made as the headphones were on the verge of falling apart in his hands.

    And I'm not sure if I'm OK with Zeos making money off of this Patreon subscribers by selling them the very equipment they bought for him but those fools let him do it.
     
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    To be fair, there's no real "if you believe that he is schilling." He's literally schilling. He got banned from /r/headphones because he started posting amazon affiliated links with his recommendations in the daily recommendations mega thread.
     
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