Lyr 3 Discussion Thread

Wait, what? What are you doing? I think I missed something.

 

Sold my very early Jot (miss it) to move to the Lyr. Had added an aux in on Jot so re-utilizing the ribbon cable / adapters I had made. Took a pic while it was open, not many internal pics out on the web. It does work, buttoned back up and using it now! Old news I think ;D

Ref:
Schiit Jotunheim impressions

 

Awesome! Totally doing this on my Jotunheim to get rid of the SYS.

Edit:
@Scott Kramer Does this input have to be balanced or can I use RCAs?

 

I'm doing it unbalanced (RCA)... ignoring (leaving unconnected, probably is anyway on lyr) the -R, -L -- also did it that way on the Jot.

Keeping it kinda obscured... this could be warranty voiding stuff. Very high voltage in there, for example I did *not* extend the 26V out to the back. Childs play tho if you regularly work on electronics.

Pinout is correct on the Jot thread.

PS: You could do it nice with actual RCA's -- but I left it as a pin header to plug in all kinds of things (mostly pi dacs and my own adapters).

 

Anyone have an opinion about Lyr3 / MB and HD800 pairing?

 

Source must be definitely the weakest link. You'd better consider much better (dedicated) dacs that can benefit scalability of lyr3 and hd800.

 

wow, kind of surprised to hear that.
I have heard fantastic words on 800 paired with Magni3/Modi-Mb. And I presumed those were lesser amps.
I was hoping this would pair well, the future looked like Lyr3 and 800 forever!

 

Hd800+lyr 3 really scale well. As a current owner of that combination, I want to use as good source components (i.e., dacs) as money allows. Also, regard multi-bit modules as slightly lesser than Modi multi-bit (that's already reported in previous pages). I don't think either Modi Multibit (modi multibit) or mb card is bad. What I suggest is that you will get a significant improvement by raising the level of source gears (e.g., Modi Multibit to Gungnir Multibit - gungnir multibit, or Gungnir Multibit to Yggdrasil - yggdrasil)

I am now using RME ADI-2 DAC (one of my three favorite dacs around 1k price). While think it sounds really good with lyr3+hd800, I was even more goose-bumped when I tested Dave (Chord) with this combination (lyr 3 + hd800).

And please go to this thread and follow the instructions:
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/new-members-introduce-yourself.17/

 

@Scott Kramer - Cool. Schiit may take note, offering an AUX in card for another ~$50 (I just picked that number because it 'felt' reasonable as a consumer) and be no-brainer up-sell, might make sense.

 

While there are improvements to be had moving from Modi Multibit to Gungnir Multibit or certainly Yggdrasil, having jumped from Modi Multibit to Gungnir Multibit myself, I disagree that Modi Multibit is a "lesser" source. It is certainly the best value in Schiit's line, and the whole dac market in my opinion. Based on what I have read here, my understanding is that Modi Multibit is marginally better than the MB card for Jot/Lyr3. I have never heard lt myself so don't have an opinion, so maybe you know something I don't? Wouldn't surprise me. I miss things all the time due to advanced age and inebriatiom.

 

You're right.. I wrongly stated. Maybe brain farts. Oh well....

Currently corrected like the below:

Thanks so much for pointing it out!

 

Modi Multibit's weaknesses really come out in my 2-channel system. I can switch between Gungnir Multibit and the Soekris dac1321 pretty easily but when I switch to Modi Multibit it sounds like something is broken in the treble. Cymbals sound like they're in a cave or soemthing, you get used to it after a few hours but you know you're not getting the performance you should be.

 

I found that the Lyr 3 response quite well to tube rolling, the difference between tubes is bigger than I expected. It's not a chameleon like Liquid Glass, but definitely worthy of tube rolling to find the right match for your headphones.

When I had owned the LG, which is a slightly laid-back amp, I preferred the neutral and hi-fi sounding TS BGRP with the Code-X. However, the TS BGRP proved to be somewhat too much with Lyr 3/Code-X, I actually preferred the more affordable Sylvania 6sL7GTB chrome dome with its smoother and more forgiving nature. On the other hand, with Lyr 3 and modded HD650/6XX, the TS BGRP remained the reference tube.

On a side note, the Shuguang CV181-Z does not fit on the tube socket of the Lyr 3 at all. The tube base does go through the hole on the top of the chassis, but it does not go all the way down to the socket because a portion of an internal board gets in the way. I didn't really care for the sound of the Shuguang CV181-Zs with LG and only tried sticking them in out of curiosity, but in case there's anyone who feel like experimenting this tube with Lyr 3, don't even bother.

 

I did manage to fit the Shuguang CV181-Z into my Lyr3. Did NOT like the sound at all, especially with Focal Clear. Far preferred PSVane 6SN7-UK (or SE).

 

Until recently, my current chain, cymbals have been a pet peeve of mine and sounded like fuzzy crap. I've gotten to a point where I get to enjoy them again. Not entirely sure where the fail is, but the DAC appears to be the weakest link. Fuzzed digital murky mess out of the DAC = assured mess out of the rest of the chain.

 

The 6SL7GTB is a tube that I thought was not equivalent to the 6SN7, enough so that running it would be dangerous.

The heater operates at half the current, the mu and the plate resistance is way higher.

Am I wrong? I ask as I really am unsure.

 

Oops, sorry I meant 6SN7GTB. The 6SL7 I use for ZDS.

 

Ok, cool, thanks. I've run both in my Dragon Inspire, but that's a whole different thing.

 

I think I've settled on the Psvane UK-6SN7, too. Andro + IEMatch + Lyr3 is just about perfect for me.

 

Valhalla 2 plus HD650 is more addictive than the lyr 3 for me. Thanks for the insight @k4rstar. Your explanation with the |^| vs /^^\ intrigued me enough to give it a try. It's easier to hear everything thats going on when it's not all stacked up in one spot.