Verum Audio - Exciting high performance DIY planar

Discussion in 'Headphone Measurements' started by cskippy, May 24, 2018.

  1. Jerry

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    The Verum is overall better, though different tonality.

    Verum 1:
    - Neutral (toward bright-ish but non-offensive so far)
    - All FR are nicely represented
    - Genre Master
    - Smooth and liquid
    - Slightly better detail
    - Better transients
    - Impact is similar.
    - Bass is sharper
    - Smaller width but deep stage

    LCD-2C (stock pads):
    - Darker with dipped upper-mid
    - Female vocal sound stuffy
    - Better for rock and modern pop
    - Can come off dry in comparison
    - Transients are more rounded
    - Bass is thumpy
    - Wider stage. But feels far left - center - far right
    - Larger sound image, but can sound fuzzy in comparison
     
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  2. likearake

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    Possibly a dumb question, but is the screw on the top of the headphone designed so that you can leave it partially unscrewed to reduce clamp? Or is it meant to be fully screwed in?
     
  3. JustAnotherRando

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    The screw on the top controls the overall width of the metal clamp. The clamp is two pieces of metal held together under the screw.

    You can make it wider or narrower. In whatever configuration, it should be full screwed down though .
     
  4. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

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    No, it shouldn't be tight screwed. That's also a rotation joint made for better comfort.
     
  5. JustAnotherRando

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    Ah, my error. Anyway, here's a photo if I can get links working:

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    The bolt will tighten to a point where rotating it will rotate the part with the screw sticking out underneath due to friction, as long as you're not holding down that part, and you can leave it at that tightness (or a bit tighter than that is fine by holding once piece down and rotating the other). Leaving it partially unscrewed i.e when it's easily unscrewed, is not very secure so I wouldn't advise that, but you shouldn't try to tighten it to the point where the two parts are clamping down on the metal bars since you want the two metal bars to be able to rotate around that so you could angle them for comfort. There's a leather piece/buffer/grommet between the two pieces that provide the friction that'll tell you when it's tight enough.
     
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  7. Suppa92

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    I'm considering to order a Verum 1s instead of LCD-2Cs but the only problem is the very low resistance of Verum 1s.
    My SMSL SU-8 is connected to the THX 789 amp through the balanced connectors. Is it safe to connect Verum 1's to that without blowing up the drivers?
     
  8. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

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    Verum 1 handles easily about 1 watt (though your ears not :)). So your equipment won't blow drivers away. Though I have no idea about the performance of this headphone+amp combo. But as far as I know many SBAFers use THX789 with Verum 1.
     
  9. Walderstorn

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    I initially had this on the ZMF Aeolus thread but because of preference (hers and mine) i will leave her impressions here of Aoelus vs Verum. Hope you enjoy her impressions @Garuspik. The first pair was the Aeolus and the second the Verums.

    "Sound feels more real in the second pair, cause in the first pair the fullness is too much and in the beginning is overwhelming. If i didn't have anything to compare with i would enjoy the first pair but it feels like the second pair makes the song more justice. It (the second pair) felt like the voices weren't always overly smooth and clean, i felt like a bit more coarse. Her voice (Adele's) and the string instruments they all had that coarseness with the second pair, which is positive because it sounds more real.
    Both give a closeness to the singer, closer in the first pair, as a negative note. In the first pair everything comes as lot, as too much. In the second pair it's not so in your face.
    Imaging was better on the 2nd.
    Both were comfy but the 2nd is bigger and i don't like the way it looks. When i put the second pair it went more around my ears and it was a good thing, no hot-spots. The pressure was more even.
    In the first pair, with these pads (Verité) it felt better, i didn't like with the first pair but still the instruments are everywhere but i don't think either of them is very strong in that.
    The sensation is strongest on the 2nd pair that when i am listening i am sitting in an imaginative but very small/intimate concert hall and the artist is actually on the stage but close to me. It feels real to hear the sound and experience and i can make my own picture of the performance.
    Don't like the look of the 2nd one.
    If there's one thing i could change about them (Verum 1) it would be to make them slimmer."
     
  10. Suppa92

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    1W :D that's good to hear.

    Since most may not have the exact dac+amp combo that I have, I'll say it technical terms.

    Because of a grounding issue I can only connect my dac to amp using Balanced connector (4 volts out from DAC).
    And with the Balanced input from DAC, THX amp makes so much power (about 6W @ 16/32ohms).

    So the doubt I have is if I connect Verum 1 to THX 789 even in "Low Gain" (in SE or Balanced Headphone out) and turn the volume knob like a quarter(90 degrees) Could the Verum 1's get extremely loud or would I get some room to play with volume control when listening?
     
  11. Luge

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    Not sure if this is your case but I recommend you to take a look at the quoted post below and the discussion that started on its basis:

     
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    Thank you.
    Now I'm bit scared of the combination of Verum 1's and THX in balanced mode, I don't want to take the risk of damaging the amp.
    Is there anyway to run verums with THX amp with a balanced dac inputs? this sounds stupid but is it possible to increse the resistance somehow?
     
  13. Garuspik

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    We've solved problem with the owner of THX789. Sad to say, but it was one of the first few faulty units. Now problems are solved once and for all. However, Verum 1 still need an amp that can deliver 1w@8ohm ;)
    p.s. You won't damage anything. Neither amp, nor headphones. But I can't tell you anything about synergy. After all, I never talk about the sound of the product I've created. It's my decision.
     
  14. omegaorgun

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    I see a guy gave them a decent review on YouTube recently. He said he wasn't a fan of the company he talked about R&D and profits, made no sense. Some people just have to moan but at least he liked the headphones.

    Would the Audeze Dekoni's fit these?
     
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    When they come back, I plan to use the THX789. It has a less than 1 ohm zout . The THX789 discusses only dynamic drivers and ends it's caveat with "Do not use the THX789 to drive loudspeakers"
    When mfr's manuals have amp ratings, they are invariably discussing dynamic headphones. I've yet to see one with statements about planar headphones,
    As Ken Rockwell wrote in his review, "This impedance curve is the flattest I've measured, flatter than the Audeze. This means that these look like a simple resistor to your amplifier, which makes them very easy to drive."
     
  16. Ryanr1987

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    Good comparisons.

    I do like my Classics If I could change one thing about the 2C's it would be that sometimes they can sound a bit rough. They sound so good with rock, pop, rap and they do give female vocals some nice lush coloration.

    I just don't know if it would be worth owning the Verums if I already have the 2C. Decisions!
     
  17. Jerry

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    Verum really sounds good. Thing is, it has this timbre that I have never heard in a planar. It has richness that is usually associated with dynamics. Vocals sounds much better than the 2C or any planar I have heard. Garuspik knows his sound well.
     
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    @Garuspik Mine arrived last week. Been a bit too busy to give my full thoughts on them but after a few days, adjusting screws, pads settling in etc. They're great. Enjoying practically every second wearing them. As @Panohm put it: "Verum are the real deal"

    I do however seem to have a minor issue with the left channel of the supplied wire. Connector wiggles and audio cuts out when doing so, so this happens every time the wire gets pulled, mostly with unintentional pulls. With or without the supplied 6.3mm adapter the issue persists. When using the right channel wire with the left ear cup there's no issues for some reason.

    As I don't have any other 2x 2.5mm style wires available, I can't rule out the headphones entirely. Would you mind sending me a replacement cable?

    (Also, entry #1000 :headbang:)
     
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  19. Garuspik

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    Thanks @Magor34 for support. It seems like a bad cable, please try another one. They’re pretty common.and sure I’ll send another cable, pm me on Kickstarter, any issues guys - write me pm on Kickstarter.
     
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    you can try to switch left and right
     

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