Verum Audio - Exciting high performance DIY planar

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    This is promising. I am currently using the Emu-Teaks so if they are about the same it should be fine.
    Probably also more comfortable than my Oppo PM3's.
     
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    Do you care about how you look in front of people? That steel headband isn't gonna win you any praise.
     
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    you do understand that Verum1 is an "open" headphone, don't you?
     
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    Just a quick note: if you plan on using the perforated pads they do seem to leak out more sound.

    Minor update: further direct pad comparisons revealed to me that yes, I really do like the perforated pads better. However, I could see the argument that out of different chains different pads would fit better.
     
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    I received my LCD-3 back, and have been comparing them to the Verum 1.

    Some thoughts in no particular order:
    • The LCD-3 sounds much more "intense" and "focused." Not sure how to describe this; the experience is just more visceral. In contrast, the Verum 1 sounds much more open (partly due to use of perforated pads), although it's worth noting that I didn't feel that either headphone sounded congested in busy passages.
    • Despite the greater openness of the Verum 1, I felt the LCD-3 staged better.
    • The Verum 1 sounds less planar-y. I'm really not sure if that makes sense, but there's something almost fundamentally different in the timbres of the two headphones. It's almost like the difference between the X-Sabre Pro's modern and square sound versus the Schiit multibit DACs, except in this case it's headphones. The LCD-3 sounds more "modern" and "clean," whereas the Verum 1 has better tone density.
    • Probably due to the perforated pads, but I tend to put the pot up higher on the Verum 1.
    • The LCD-3 sounds like the more technically accomplished of the two. It also sounds a bit brighter, perhaps due to its small 8k peak?
    • It's worth noting the Verum 1 with the regular solid pads take on a bit of the intense sound, but not much. Honestly, I feel the perforated pads are just better on this headphone.
    Not sure if I'll keep both. I like both, but the question is whether or not I can justify having both. The one with less head time is probably going to go.
     
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    I need a help with context. Which perforated pads are you guys using with the Verums?
     
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    Pads are technically still in testing but they're new angled perforated pads that'll go for $25, Garuspik talked about them somewhere in this thread.
     
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    It's funny thing with sensitivity. I've only today found out that most of headphone manufacturers measure sensitivity as db\V not as db\mW. If I measure in such way then Verum 1 is 117 db\V.
    Also here is another Verum 1 measurements report:
    https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/verum-audio-verum-1.php

    It's a wonderful russian site (with english version) where you can compare measurements on same stand of hundreds of headphones.
     
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    This, diy-audio-heaven and the golden-ear something korean site all have really good databases for measurements.
     
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    Don't know this one, can you elaborate? :)
     
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    http://en.goldenears.net Haven't used it in a while but they have more of the Asian brands than other sites so stuff like vsonic, final audio, etc...
     
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    I always take specs published by manufacturers with a grain of salt. When it goes to impedance for instance, dynamic headphones usually have a large peak in the bass region which might be far higher than the impedance published by the manufacturer.
    How's it going with Verum 2 by the way? When do you think it will go to kickstarter?
    Cheers
     
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    United Nations setup sounds better than it's supposed to, raspberry pi/502dac, Gungnir Multibit, LNBM or phontiror e, and Verum, back in action after gracious driver replacement. Not congested at all, everything sounds sensible.

    Oh, I Aliexpressed some pads for cheap, currently using what looks like long haired Tibetan yak velour which got rid of all sibilance.

    Balanced Dyson cable. Everything started of sibiliant and unbalanced. The yak pads seem to have solved any issues.!?

    These amps don't need any of the impedance adapters I purchased jic.

    Love the clarity, depth and tone.
     
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    Her's a Aliexpress link, be sure to do the close up, Yak Pads

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    I dunno about Yak fur, but it'll be interesting to see how well those hold up over time, with the two fabrics stitched the way they are.
     
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    Ah, I saw those pads when I was trying to mod my HE5 (2017), I'm going to try them.

    My only complaint for Verum 1's sound is that it's too "solid" for me, a bit tiring, but not fatiguing. I don't know why, since I don't think Verum 1 have noticeable treble peaks, and they don't sound closed. It's like I always try to find something more from Verum 1, so I turn up the volume, and then my ears got tired.

    I found that using thinner pads could "soften" the sound of Verum 1 a bit. For example, the thinner perforated pads didn't really brighten the sound on my unit, they did take some bass away, but I felt the mids became smoother, and the treble didn't really sound brighter. And if I use TH-X00's original pads or E-MU Teak's leather pads, which are even thinner, the sound became congested but the vocal was... thick and yummy, even though I knew that sound was not balanced or "healthy", but that sound made my think of something from 90s, but I actually haven't heard many headphones from that time.

    I still think the original pads sound the best with better bass and openness, but yes, they sound the most "solid" to me. So I put some Creatology-Foam-like foam on the inner wall of the pads to soften the sound a bit, now I really like the sound of my Verum 1 now.

    Oh, forgot to mention, my results might not be accurate because:
    1. I don't think the perforated pads sound brighter, which is against the design goal and other's review, so... don't believe anything I said~.
    2. My unit have some weird channel imbalance issue, which can be fixed by patting on the right driver (the right driver is quiter sometimes), since like some connection problem, because I used long distance shipment to evade import duties. Maybe this problem could make my unit sound different. (I don't want to sent them back! Noooo!!!)
     

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