Nearfields for audiophile listening?

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  1. yonson

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    If you don't need the 6" woofer of the BM6a, I have the BM5a's and the BM Compacts and have been quite happy with them. I even ran the BM5a's as mains for a few days when I first received them, and they were quite impressive.

    I also finally got to hear a couple tracks on the Evoke 10's which are unsurprisingly quite similar to the 20's with less bottom end.
     
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    Decent monitor but it didn’t have what’s cool about the BM6. Less head room and extension, the midrange is more present but also more scooped, and some of that sort of round, hi-fi, real world reference quality was gone.
     
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    Id buy Proac sm100 over Quested sr-7 btw as i prefer passive speakers and the advantage to tailor the sound with a amp of my choice (tube amp preferably)
     
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    How big is the improvement from the Studio 100? Less murderous treble?
     
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    the studio 100 was quite harsh from the report ive read. never heard them.

    but the new SM100 I heard was not harsh
     
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    They were v shaped and very, very dry British sandpaper treble. I guess it can’t be worse.

    The small, sealed Questeds are yet more British NS10s.
     
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    thats what ive heard. from the old studio 100. the SM100 are pretty amazing but its still a 6.5 inch woofer. and all the shortcomings associated with it.
     
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    My roommate had the SM100's in his bedroom for awhile, and the treble was a bit wince-inducing. I guess that's ideal for mixing, but he never used them for pleasure and I could understand why.
     
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    Damn. Probably not that improved from the older Studio 100s. That's brit-fi for you. I've only heard ATC and Quested overcome the British peculiarities towards warmth and pain.
     
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    I guess not. He's since gotten his own studio and these just arrived to dwarf them:
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    I've tried the sm100 but was pretty turn off by the size and ugly proac brand printed on the woofer. They plaster proac all over the speakers.
     
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    first impression of the s6r. manage to bring it home for demo.

    - mid doesn't seem to be as magical as harbeth or maybe even the atc as well. vocals doesn't seem to be as natural
    - treble seems a little sharp. i don't know. maybe ear fatigue from an earlier listening session
     
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    harbeth sucks ;)

    Have you heard the harbeth 30.2?

    Can you demo the Graham ls6 or ls5/9?
     
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    i take back anything negative i've said about harbeth.

    the 30.1 is the best speakers I've ever owned. if not for my poor desk placement, I would love to try the speakers on proper stands. I didn't like p3esr for the very limited bass. and i love my hip hop.

    i've listened to the new classic spendor 3/5 earlier. it has quite a bit of that mid range magic but again limited bass. spendor is very cheeky to have their frequency response starting at 55hz. I bet that's -10db.

    Will look out for the graham! are all bbc ls series kind of the same?
    just checked out ls6. it's rear ported. i can't do rear port.
     
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    If he tried the 30.1s and had resonance issues in the place he wants to use them, I can’t see getting a ton better from those other options - they all have the BBC thinwall design.

    @yunie_ did you do anything to try to deal with the resonance issue? Like getting some isolation stands? Are they also close to a wall?
     
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    I agree. i missed that part.
    however, measurements wise, the 30.1 have a built in bump at about 100hz. the 30.2 have removed that built in bump and is now flat.
     
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    I'm mighty curious though. is the mid range magic of harbeth coloured? youtubers that I'm familiar with sounds extremely nasel on the harbeth. granted, i don't know them personally and only heard them through my speakers.
     
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    [​IMG]

    here's a pic when i still have my neumann kh120a. the right speaker is at the very problematic room corner.

    i got some small acoustic panels. but it didn't seem to help at all.
     
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    where did you get this info from?
    if that's true, 30.2 will be my goal
     
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    Imo, they will be too big for that space unless you get them up off your desk, pull them out from the wall, and do some heavy isolation and treatments - even then probably not possible in that location. Driver integration will be an issue with that size speaker as well when sitting that close. You need something smaller, well damped with a dead cabinet. Sealed design would be best. Add a sub if you want more bass.
     
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