The Coronavirus Thread

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  1. Kernel Kurtz

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    Props to them for good planning. I think it is an "advantage" for them living somewhere that hurricanes are always a real possibility, as much disaster planning will work for many kinds of disasters. Places where nothing serious ever really happens are probably going to be less equipped in general for those times when things do.

    Up here in the Red River valley, spring flooding has always been an ongoing concern. Fortunately this year does not look like it will be too serious. The thought of trying to fight flooding at the same time as SARS2 is a logistical nightmare. Likewise I hope this is well over by the time the next hurricane season rolls around down south.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/6745747/coronavirus-flooding-waters-regions/
     
  2. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Rednecks tend to be well educated (maybe not Berkeley liberal arts degree kind of educated) and self-reliant. They don't need or want government to look out or make decisions for them. In disaster situations, rednecks like Hank Hill are more likely to survive than progressive city slickers.
     
  3. squishware

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    Rural type folks have "Git R Done". Back in the day living in Osceola County Florida there were out of control wildfires all around us but not in our county. I suspect it something to do with the 6 Wheel Drive former Military Fuel Truck converted to a water truck.
     
  4. YMO

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    Yesterday at my brother's job they laid off 27 people and those who remained lost 20% of their income. The deal is if things are not going back to normal by June, the company will close down.

    Also got work that some of my friends who work in lower wage jobs are out of a job. My job is secure for now since my role is critical with the company, or so they say....

    This virus is becoming annoying not on the sickness, on the economy part.
     
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    Meh, there's all kinds of people everywhere. A whole lot of "self-reliant" rural folk are going to be happily cashing government checks this month while plenty of Berkeley-educated progressives in expensive cities won't be taking a dime.
     
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    My nomination for the "Shimmering Germ Award" (best commentary on CV19) goes to our very own @purr1n:

    "Rest in the emptiness of unease you f******"

    Pure poetry...
     
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    Remember, the government does not hire the best people for the job. They hire the best people they can find who will take the job. The real expertise is in the real world where science is being advanced, CDC and WHO are just Cliff notes (and not very good ones) for the rest of us. If you listen to this video, I don't see how you can come away with any other conclusion. He is the atomicbob of epidemiology.
     
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    bilboda Florida boomer

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    After reading this post, I'm pretty sure that I now qualify for medical marijuana.
     
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    Corona virus news scrolls up my screen, but is now barely entering into my consciousness. In the two countries in which I have a particular interest, it is hardly getting started. If I stop following the news for a day, will I miss Armageddon? But I need to take a day off.

    How to avoid. Being in India, I am stuck in the house. Being stuck in the house, not even getting shopping trips and evenings out away from the internet. And, on the internet, everywhere is... coronavirus.

    I know. My problem does not even have the significance of a flea's fart in the current schemes. Just venting. Thanks for listening.
     
  11. yotacowboy

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    Hopefully we'll look back on this as the COVIS-19 overreaction rather than the COVIS-19 under reaction, after 30 years.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think gov't largess and bailout money-grabs are okay in the least, but, my day job is in statistics, and when data are unreliable IMHO it's okay to be pessimistic rather than optimistic for the sake of keeping our friends and family alive. "Bad data", or poor data capture methodology are the state of affairs when dealing with short time series or poor/incomplete methodology. Often, the data are secondary to the administration of effective interventions, and never perfectly captured in the supposedly representative data on outcomes. It's called "data sampling and limitations documentation"...
     
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    I am a bit salty about adding T W O T R I L L I O N dollars to the national debt. I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop. I have a sick feeling this is going to cost us some Rights as well.
    PS: A Trillion is a thousand billions
     
  13. LetMeBeFrank

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    Let the boogaloo begin...
     
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    I may have missed a post explaining but 2 serious questions:

    1. Will masks help or not?
    2. When/where/how do we get tested?

    Masks - I see conflicting information about whether or not masks help. Does anyone have a definitive source? Per transmission via droplets, it being in our lungs, and the fact that this is very transmissible and lingers for a while - this all tells me to use a mask. That and if masks didn't help, then why would hospital staff be short on masks to begin with? Also, I notice in HK, Taiwan, Japan, etc where there is a high population density but masks are socially acceptable / normal, they have disproportionately lower transmission. Granted, as I've said before I think this is primarily due to other factors, but I bet the masks are *a factor* and it seems like it'd be dumb to say no masks.

    If the masks really do help, then IMO the most disgusting thing to do would be to lie to people and cause more mass + long term spread and deaths b/c people can't sort out production.

    Also, everything I've seen that says don't use masks it won't help comes from the US gov/media (b/c we have a mask shortage) or other places that have a mask shortage. Also, many places originally said don't use and hoard masks... once they had enough masks... the message changed. No I'm not going to hoard masks (heck, the ones I have immediate access to are only CE certified, not even FDA so I'm not taking away from US medical supply chain). FWIW regarding production of masks - someone I know straight up offered me a N95 mask making machine (didn't buy b/c too expensive for personal use) - I can't imagine a hospital or the like not being able to buy one though.

    Testing - Hardest part is flying blind with no info or gauges. There is supposedly a shortage of tests and testing equipment... but how did every other country in Asia (many of which are much poorer than the US, China, or Italy... and their total populations added up would be as much as the US or more) all manage to procure and then subsequently manage to test and no longer fly blind. If this is due to some bureaucratic BS, FDA regulation process, or some "protect American manufacturing" - this stupidity should be all over the news and we need to re-examine regulations and laws, not whatever dumb crap we're doing now.

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    Re: Masks - I feel like a lot of people who like to confidently say "Masks don't help at all!" tend to be talking out of their asses. Not All mind you. As you said the sources for information are mixed and conflicting and often down cultural lines. One study that came out after SARS said that masks of either kind (surgical or N95) can cut transmission chances up to 80%. Others disagree. There is definitely a stigma on wearing them in the US whereas right now in China and other Asian countries there is a stigma on NOT wearing them. I can tell you what wearing a mask does for me is that it helps me remember to not touch my face. That in itself is productive
     
  16. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Masks help a bit, but they need to be tossed after use if they are the disposal variety. Masks may not help if you rub your eyes. There's a shortage now so we don't see the CDC highly recommending them. Masks probably protect others more than yourself if you are infected and cough.

    Escape of NY should have been implemented a few days ago at the latest. The data was already there. I know two people in NY who have it and it's sort of like how the heck did you get it?

    The answer is that people didn't take this seriously and continued to mingle in groups. Heck El Lay had to close the packed beaches and Rhode Islander's had to threaten to shoot folks from NY/NJ invading their space. People are obstinate and dumb.

    NY/NJ needs to be quarantined now. I don't know why we're not hearing the outrage for lack of border closure from the news concerning this.
     
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    So what about Skid Row?
     
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    The Coronavirus Neuroses chart needs updates for consumption of fish tank cleaner and methanol chugging. Also chasing down New Yorkers crossing state line perhaps.
     
  19. Lyander

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    I'm keeping in touch with friends across various areas here and all I can say without breaking my word of honour is that I know of at least one admitted case of some unmitigated bagelhead FAKING a case of infection for God knows whatever reason and causing a great deal of distress for a not-small population of people.

    Why anyone would do this, I have no clue.
     
  20. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Fish tank cleaner chugging belongs in the purple circle. Paranoia neurosis causing panicked, anxious, and desperate actions. Not too different from buying a ton of TP or stocking up on more ammo than necessary. Just more extreme.

    Methanol chugging would be a combination of maybe the purple circle desperation with the blue circle ignorance or spacing out. As in making it all go away. Weed is a means for intentional self-afflicted ignorance and stupidity.

    I would advise anyone thinking about weed that certain strains can cause paranoia. It also perma kills the part of your brain responsible for short term memory.
     
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