Verum Audio - Exciting high performance DIY planar

Discussion in 'Headphone Measurements' started by cskippy, May 24, 2018.

  1. tommytakis

    tommytakis MOT: E.T.A Headphones

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    thx for the suggestion! The comfort is actually not bad at all, I was trying to be nitpicky because they're both very comfortable haha
     
  2. Jerry

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    Dont know why I dont particularly find headband like on ZMF or Verum 1.2 to be comfortable on my head for long hours. Short hours, no problem. They look great though, but not as comfortable as LCD2C pleather headband. Maybe because there are holes in the LCD2C's headband, so my head can breathe better.
     
  3. tommytakis

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    Yeah I agree the Audeze headband is comfy af! I have them on the Borealis and I can wear them all day with no issue.

    I feel like with ZMF, you gotta find that sweet spot or the weight distribution gets emphasized on one area and cause you discomfort. Did you try adjusting it according to Zach's tutorial? Very helpful stuff

    With the Verum, I found that adjusting the height really helped with evening out the pressure. I had it one level too low and put a lot of pressure on top of my head but when I increased it one level, it became more comfy
     
  4. Jerry

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    I always try to adjust all headphones as high as possible so that the drivers match the opening of my ears. But that's for sound purpose.

    Yea i tried the Zach's tutorial and it definitely helped. But for long hours I still felt it lacked cushiness. The cloth cover definitely with that.
     
  5. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

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    Holes in headband adds comfort? You mean breath and ventilation or also hot spots of pressure?
     
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    I haven't given it a lot of thoughts actually. I think it could be both ventilation and hot spots, Garuspik.

    But I have to say that pleather material in both the 2C's headband and earpads are really damn comfy.
     
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  7. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

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    What makes 2c headband more comfy?
    Thanks for feedback.
     
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    Just the material is really nice and comfy to my head. And it doesn't get as hot for long hours. But this is subjective. Other peeps could feel differently.

    Btw, the Verum 1.1 head cushion was more comfy than ZMF to me too. My Verum 1.2 should be on the way. I'll let you know how it is, mate.
     
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  9. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

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    Thanks for feedback guys. I was experimenting in evening with padding\pillows\foam etc. And after all I realized that we don't need anything soft in hot spot. We need something soft on points where our head is close to leather strap but still don't touch.
    Let me show on picture:

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    Adding paddint to hot spot or making the whole strap soft don't add anything to comfort. So how to distribute force more evenly? Here is solution:

    upload_2020-4-28_23-53-34.png

    We need to add padding to areas that are close to our head but not firmly touching

    And here is 10 seconds mod with a help of 8mm foam and double sided adhesive tape:

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    Imho it is a very good solution. In this hobby feedback is very important so I ask those who has headphones with simillar suspension system (Audeze, ZMF, Hifiman, Verum 1 mk2 etc) to try this. Very important to find right positions for foam and right thickness. In my opinion good is 6-8mm range.
    Waiting for feedback ;)
     
  10. gixxerwimp

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    I'm waiting for the Verum 2, and it just occurred to me that my main amp being the SW51 might not work well with it, depending on what the impedance ends up being. @Garuspik, do you have any idea how the "2" would pair with an output impedance of 27 ohms?
     
  11. Garuspik

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    Output impedance doesn't matter for any planar headphones. All you need to know is whether your amp can deliver undistorted 1w at 8 ohms.
     
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    To my knowledge, yes planar frequency wont be affected by amp's output impedance. But the general rule of using amps with output impendance lower than the headphone's still apply. I dont suggest you use that for the Verum. Even the $100 Magni would be a better choice.
     
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  13. Garuspik

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    Just imagine what is going on when output impedance of amp is 30 ohm and load is 8. Only 8/30 of power will be delivered to headphones actually.
     
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    unfortunately it does matter on practice as it is restricting amps selection.
     
  15. Garuspik

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    Sure I agree. As I've said to run Verum 1 good amp should be capable to deliver 1W@8 ohms. But it's unlikely to be achieved with high impedance output amp.
     
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    I have the Liquid Spark with distorted with this.
    I can move to SP200 THX and it was better - 0.01ohm.

    this headphones need expensive amp to sound at full potential.
     
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    - you can say that about any good headphone :) . And complains on other side would be "it doesn't scale with equipment too well" :)
    It is not about price, it is about choice available. With 30+ Om it would be significantly larger.
     
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    The spark has an output impedance less than 0.1 ohms.
    I think you are most likely having trouble with the gain if anything.

    My Verum 1 are currently plugged into a Liquid Spark fed by a Modi Multibit with no trouble at all.
    I wouldn't call it an entirerely synergistic combination but I don't get any audible distortion out of it.
    That's on 3x gain. I have found that I prefer lower gain and a less obviously flavoured source with the Verum.

    What was your set up when you tried it?
     
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    How do the Verum and Jotunheim pair? Is anyone running the verum balanced?
     
  20. gixxerwimp

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    This is more or less my solution for the hotspot on the Focal Clears, though I used the knitted yes tea cozy headband protector to hold the foam in. Works really well.

    https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/focal-clear.5412/page-29#post-268323

    @Garuspik can you provide any info at this time regarding the impedance of the Verum 2?
     
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