Iem tip rolling / tip advice thread

I did an experiment with the Xelastic tips and they were super snug 8 hours ago (on and off use) and are already coming out more freely. Is it just me?

 

Could be you or not...

Something to check though, is to clean both the tips and your ears before condemning the tips. With the tips in your ears, moisture is trapped and is absorbed by your ear wax. Things can get really slippery, especially in warmer climates.


As far as the Xelastec tips, you can pop them off and wash them with very warm/hot water, it will both clean them and reset the shape of them.

 

I really couldn't get the hang of these. My ear canals are similar sizes but different shapes, and trying to get these things oriented properly in both ears with different IEMs required mirror work.

They also claim to have a 4mm bore to fit earphone nozzles of 4-6mm. However, the bores are actually around 3mm wide, and in addition the stems are very short - without gaskets to lengthen them, they're fairly restricted in what IEMs they'll fit.

And yep, they're very small, and the small size is not helped by them being quite soft. If you normally fit L, you'll be out of luck with these.

Cannot recommend.

 

the “light” are much softer and have a different sound too - warmer, bassier. Might be good with the og treble peak version Andromeda.

they also make “short” versions of the regular black and clear light too so there’s a ton of options. The short versions are warmer. They’re all some of my favorite tips.

I wish I didn’t have XL ear canals so I could try those horn tips.

 

I wanted to try a silver cable with Vegas to make bass even better defined and "safer" asked @rhythmdevils for advice. The advice was "buy SednaEarfit Xelastec instead".
I do not remember if anything ever made a bigger positive difference in my sound experience for less money. Of course that is very subjective and applies to a specific setup: Vega with Kann Cube but..
First the tips:
I never use silicon tips, other than triple of double flange for deep insert. They do not stay in my ears, do not seal, basically useless for me.
Not those. The fit and comfort is the best I experienced: they stay in my ears and I almost do not feel them. . They seal very well, do not isolate that well but I do not care about this part as I use Vegas only inside.
The bore is uniformly wide so they are supposed to be lighter on bass, but it goes beyond that.

I would say that all technicalities of Vega improved: instrument separation first, FR is definitely a bit flatter and that not because they lost anything in treble. I think it comes down to way better control of bass and therefore letting midrange shine.
Both resolution and clarity improved to the level that I noticed it in first few minutes of listening
Vegas bass is a touch less extended and elevated, still more then enough, but the texture and definition has improved.

here is the example that may illustrate it well:
In early piano trios, by Haydn for example, the cello is not really a separate voice, it is being used to spice up and reinforce the piano bass line. On most recordings it is very difficult to separate instruments except with very resolving setup.
Well, Xelastec turns Vegas with Kann Cube into such a resolving setup, the trick by Mr Haydn does not work anymore, the sound of cello is very well pronounced and it creates even better effect.

Do not get me wrong I loved this setup before and Vegas are great IEMs and we are not talking day an night, that's about those last 2% that make such a tremendous difference to the crazies like... us.

@rhythmdevils I would be very interested in your take on it, if you have a chance to listen to Vegas wit Xelastec. If I ever get back to Florida I will send you my pair to try with new shiny tips of your size. Now, from Canada, it would be pain in the ass, for both of us.

 

I’d love to hear the Vegas at some point but more so I’m glad it worked! And you saved a heap of money on an expensive cable! I was going to say you should also try the other 2 tips I mentioned but your comments indicate they may not work. I sincerely hope you’re one of he lucky ones who’s ears don’t deform the Xelastic tips to the point that they fold over on themselves. For some people they stay round-ish and others they deform severely.

I posted a bunch of advice on reforming them in this thread about the Xelastic tips

 

Can’t find the new eartips exchange thread so illl post these here.

free to friends/contributors including shipping.

never put in my ears I could tell they were too small just from looking at them. So brand new.

Fits a nozzle about half the size of the CA iem’s. I can’t remember the dimensions. 2-3mm?

large is probably 13mm diameter

I’d like to ship them ASAP so please step up and take them now thank you.

 

Anyone have recommendations for aftermarket tips that would fit the EDC3? Thanks

 

Looking for new tips for my OG andro, pref not foam.
If you hanve some recommandations, thx for help.

 

I wish iems stayed in my ears better. I think I have slightly conical shaped ear canals, so tips slowly or sometimes pretty quickly slide out and I have to keep shoving them back in. They just have nothing to grab onto. Even if I keep going up I size to some 15mm silicone tips I have, they just slide out faster. Most silicone tips I can just put into my ears and out with no friction or tension at all.

I've tired basically every tip, but is there one I might be missing that might hold better? The only tips that hold in my ears are the Xelestic Sedna tips, but they deform over time and wind up folding over on themselves.

 

My right ear canal is just like this, it's flared and a pain in the ass to keep anything still there.

I have a weird extra large eartip just for them and I basically make a suction to hold them still. Not safe I know but safe enough if you know how to break the suction when taking them off.

They're those. The problem they don't fit some nozzles like the Fiio FD5 I have (unless you're willing to trim them shorter) so I'm back at using normal large eartips and shoving the IEM every 10min or so.

Also I find BA only IEMS to fit way better because of their usual lighter weight and balanced center of gravity unlike single driver IEMs which usually have a metal based housing and off center weight.

 

I've not used them for any great length of time, so I don't know if they'll fold over on themselves or not - I very much doubt they would - but the Azla Sedna Crystal tips might work well for you. They're super grippy. The tackiness is almost too much: I have to be careful pulling them out. I fear accidentally using them like a plunger and sucking out the insides of my skull.

 

I just ordered some thank you! I have a hard time with tips staying in my ears even the Azla Crystal tips which fit well and are big enough but eventually just start falling out.

Although as far as the tips being super large the image says 14mm which is quite normal for large but maybe incorrect.

 

i also have an issue with the Azla tips working well at first but then getting less and less effective.

 

You can get this tip set on AliExpress that comes with a 15-16mm wide silicone tip. It’s huge. But it doesn’t stay in my ears better the size just pushes them out.