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  1. aufmerksam

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    There is no Modi "2" MB, the Modi MB is the first iteration of Multibit in the Modi form factor. As for quality vs a Soekris, I have no idea. I think a few people have heard both, but not too many. I have owned the Modi MB for a while now, and can attest to its excellence. For my experience it is only bested by the Gungnir Multibit, which is 5x the cost (in the US).

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    Others can speak to modi mb vs bifrost mb better than I can, but many did not feel that the bifrost mb was worth the extra price on headphones. As for quality differences, that is a harder question to answer. All the schiit dacs are very high quality, both in build and implementation, the major advantage that bifrost mb has is that its upgradable (upgradeable? whatever spelling). It has the same input and outputs as the modi mb, but a better power supply. I cannot speak for the soekris, since you can DIY the dam board into many variations. Sound quality is VERY difficult to answer without knowing what you are listening for. If you are mostly looking to get your feet wet with multibit dacs, I think a Modi MB is a great (read: safe) place to start. If you can find a good deal on a soekris closer to home, that is probably also a good bet.
     
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  2. Torq

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    There's no Modi "2" MB ... there is currently only the one version of the multi-bit Modi.

    Can't comment on the Soekris unit, as I've not heard it but I wrote up some stuff on all versions of Bifrost and how it compares with Modi MB if you want to see how those stack up (from my perspective).
     
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    Personally I prefer my own built dac (highly modded early run of dam1021) over the Yggdrasil, but that is close to useless info to anyone who is not knee deep into diy. Although the simplest version is child's play to build.
    I have not heard any other Schiit multibit dacs than Yggdrasil. Based on trusted ears around here I have no reason to doubt that Yggdrasil is best among Schiit's own lineup in technicalities. Synergy, preferences and gear matching will make a difference in many cases.
    I'd wait a few months until SBAF crowd gets their hands and ears on these new Soekris inventions. There seems to be potential and prices are also very reasonable.
    (I have a few philosophical quibbles wrt Soekris commercial units)
    I highly doubt that any of the Soekris units is bad sounding, let's just wait and see how they stack up to competition.
     
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    I looked at https://schiit.eu.com/, ´cause i thought it´s the offical distributor and there ist costs £270. That €325 and with some ´german´percent it´s 50%, actualy 46% if $249 = €230
    If a follow you link, it´s just €299:
    http://www.schiit-europe.com/index.php/producten/dacs/modi-multibit.html
    And it´s looks like http://www.schiit-europe.com is the offical distributor of Schiit. Maybe i should shop there.
     
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    You can actually get it cheaper here www.schiit-europe.com, where it is 25€ less. I didn't check the modi 2 MB, but I did check a lot of the other amps and DACs, they ranged from 20-35% more in EU compared to the US.
     
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    We get a little of our own back. The Metrum DACs, at least, are cheaper in the EU.
     
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    Does anyone know of anyone than can make quality XLR Interconnect "Y" adapters (1 Female to 2 Males)? Preferably using OCC copper that is not silver plated. OFC not silver-plated is fine too. These adaptors need only be 6" long including XLR connectors. What I have seen on the Internet is for microphone setups. I am using Pangea XLR interconnects and it just seems wrong to use cheap "Y" adapters with them.

    Does someone here make cables like that? I would prefer to do business with a "Friend" here if I can.

    What I have seen on the Internet is for microphone setups.

    I need to get XLR out from my Yggdrasil to a Mjolnir 2 and a Freya. I don't want to use a passive or active adapter box because that just adds an extra set of connections that aren't needed. My understanding is that properly constructed "Y" adapters will not degrade the signal quality.
     
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  9. Dackzy

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    So one of my friends is also looking to upgrade his setup, he isn't willing to look used like I am, but he has a budget of 500€ for a DAC and he is also inside EU. Any ideas?
     
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    Without knowing anything about your friends headphones, amps or anything else for that matter here's my advice:
    I'd try to make him change his mind about buying used gear and go looking for a Schiit Bifrost Multibit. Or save up the extra money for a new one.
     
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    I know he has a pair of HD 800's (not HD800s) and a pair of HE 500's, but he also has some more just not sure what
     
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    I thought the general consensus around here was that the Modi MB was very close to the Bifrost MB for less than half the price? Personally, I'm hoping to save up and jump directly to the Gungnir MB for my two channel system.
     
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    Hey you're absolutely right, thanks for pointing that out. Weird that I, who own both Modi MB and Yggdrasil, did not recommend the Modi MB.
    There you go @Dackzy tell your friend to get the Modi MB.... :)
     
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    Thank you! I contacted Dyson. I just ordered a pair of OCC copper "Y" adapters for a very reasonable price!
     
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    Current chain: MacBook > Gungnir Multibit (USB) > Black Widow (XLR) > HD800

    Need some advice on which of the following to get first:
    • New Amp - DNA Stratus (12 month wait time)
    • Avoid USB - Auralic Aries or Lynx PCIe card
    I plan to eventually get both, but that probably won't happen for some time.
     
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    Can you use a PCI instead of a PCIe card? That opens up for good value Lynx cards on the used market. If so I'd order the DNA (how much do you have to pay when ordering?) and keep my eyes open for a used AES16 PCI during the 12 month wait. They show up cheap now and then...
     
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    Yes, I'm pretty sure I can. The Stratus requires a $1K deposit. Thanks for the advice, think I'll join the DNA club this weekend :)
     
  18. New Reformation

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    Preface
    Checking in after a long absence from these forums. I sold almost all my gear off (Including M2U, Valhalla 2 and ESP950's) last year because I needed the cash and wanted to rethink my rig. I still have modded HP50's and an HD650, but no amp or DAC at all.

    I'm at a point where I want to slowly start moving forward toward a higher end system built around my HD650.

    The first step is a stop-gap to simply allow my to listen to the headphones I already have while I study. I'm in a graduate program at the moment, so that happens to be a lot. It's important for me to get into listening again or I simply won't be motivated to improve my component chain.

    Here's where I need some advice:

    I have been looking starting out with a transportable amp/DAC so that I could listen while studying at the library (yes, going to the library is still a thing...). I was thinking about a Fulla 2, and was pretty settled on the purchase until I did some deeper thinking about where I want to take my system. I would REALLY like to move away from USB audio and if I don't start now it will become much more expensive to do so down the road (in terms of dumping a bunch of cash at once...).

    So, in light of my goal of ultimately abandoning USB audio, I have been considering a Micca OriGen+. It has SPDIF input alongside USB. This would allow my rig to progress like this:

    1) Micca OriGen+ used with USB >
    2) Build Raspberry pie with Hifiberry, outputting SPDIF to the OriGen+ and controlled by my android phone >
    3) Add monitor and peripherals to the Pi so that I can abandon all computer/phone use while listening (distraction free listening/reading environment FTW) >
    4) Purchase Jodi and Modi Multibit and live happily in USB-free land. >
    5) Re-evaluate system chain, and consider what/if any upgrades are necessary.

    Does this sound like a good game plan, or am I prioritizing the wrong things in building my system chain? I am especially worried that the OriGen+ won't be powerful enough for the HD650's. I like Schiit gear, but I think starting with a Fulla 2 would leave me with no practical path to building a non-USB system... Haven't seen a lot about the OriGen+ as compared to the Fulla 2 around here.

    If anybody cares to share the riches of their wisdom/experience I would be most grateful!
     
  19. Zed Bopp

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    Does Modi 2 have better bass slam than Modibit? I'm very curious about subs especially, I think the multibit had some mid-bass bloat going on. (I listen to lots of rock, metal and hip-hop.)

    Lack of bass punch is basically the reason the latter got sold and I went back switching cables from my daily soundcard (Apogee Duet). The highs were somewhat lacking in certain sizzle too, if not overall energy.

    Other dac options using usb below 1k€ are welcome too, cheers.
     
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  20. bigfatpaulie

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    I was hoping to get some input/advice. I use the volume control on my DAC via remote: it has a built in volume control. That said, I may be moving to a DAC that does not have a volume control built in so I would be left using the volume pot on my amp - not remote controlled. When I listen I tend to be out of arm's reach to adjust the volume so I like having a remote volume control.

    Anyway, long story short, is there a decent way of adding a remote volume control (in line?) I was thinking something like a Freya would do the trick but it seems like overkill in my case. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
     
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