1.     Don't be a dotard!
    Read these "rules" AND introduce
    yourself     before your first post
  2. A healthy approach to understanding measurements
    Being true to what the artists intended
  3. After being asked for the 308th time, Merv lists top 5 headphones
    (opinion / entertainment piece)
    Dismiss Notice
  4. $1000 to the first to design a headamp using discrete components with better measurements than Magni 3+
    Dismiss Notice
IMPORTANT: New Members Read This Don't Be a Measurement Fascist Merv's Top 5 Headphones - 2023 Edition $1000 Challenge

The Game of Thrones Thread (With Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by ultrabike, Jun 28, 2017.

Tags:
Page 32 of 55
  1. msommers

    msommers High on Epipens

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2016
    Likes Received:
    2,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Calgary, Alberta
    Home Page:
    I pray my plasma doesn't die in the next year or two. I don't want to fork over the $$ for equivalent OLED.
     
    msommers, May 1, 2019
    #621
  2. Phantaminum

    Phantaminum Friend

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2018
    Likes Received:
    1,991
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    Article: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/game-of-thrones-too-dark-to-see

    There you have it guys. Lern 2 sEttings.

    On a serious note, I’ve adjusted my TV settings after the episode and rewatched the first 20 minutes. It helped but I’m at the limitations of my LCD TV.
     
    Phantaminum, May 1, 2019
    #622
  3. LetMeBeFrank

    LetMeBeFrank Won't tell anyone my name is actually Francis

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2017
    Likes Received:
    3,759
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Jackson, Mi
    Ah yes, the tried and true "blame the customer" approach....

    [​IMG]
     
    LetMeBeFrank, May 1, 2019
    #623
  4. Hands

    Hands Overzealous Auto Flusher - Measurbator

    Staff Member Pyrate MZR
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Likes Received:
    12,287
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Colorado
    Home Page:
    It was more just that I didn't use enough of and/or the right words to clarify my point. :)
     
    Hands, May 1, 2019
    #624
  5. msommers

    msommers High on Epipens

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2016
    Likes Received:
    2,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Calgary, Alberta
    Home Page:
    msommers, May 1, 2019
    #625
  6. elmoe

    elmoe Friend

    Pyrate Banned
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2019
    Likes Received:
    956
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    lol, how about filming something taking into account most people's current TV settings? Last I checked HBO isnt cheap, now I have to adjust my TV based on the show im watching?

    Thats what I did and it still looked bad.
     
    elmoe, May 1, 2019
    #626
  7. Hands

    Hands Overzealous Auto Flusher - Measurbator

    Staff Member Pyrate MZR
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Likes Received:
    12,287
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Colorado
    Home Page:
    Good media is mastered for properly calibrated screens. That's just the way shit works. No one does it otherwise. Should all music be mastered with a huge bass roll off because most people listen to headphones with a shit ton of bass? C'mon now. (Different being people don't seem to care that all they can hear is wub wub with music.)

    Why don't you go complain about how out of the box TV settings are A) garbage and B) put in place to "wow" the commoners on Best Buy's show room floor? It's a shitty sales tactic that preys on ignorance while knowingly obliterating how anything on your TV is meant to be viewed. It's literally defeating the primary purpose of any good TV or display device just to stand out on a floor.

    Or, shit, maybe the dragons should have been designed so that their silhouettes have defining features, in preparation for scenes where limited lighting might make it hard to differentiate them. Even in good scenes, I can usually only remember that one is a bit bigger and darker than the others.

    I'm not really too concerned that I can't catch every sliver of action in battle scenes like this, because the get the implication the chaos is meant to be portrayed as such. Nerds can fugly-brighten and slow down gifs if they have nothing better to do with their time. (Guess what, I still figured out what happened with the dragons through context that came with watching the rest of the episode.)

    Or maybe how we pay good money, to big corporations, for cable and/or streaming services that have poor reliability, low bitrate, and seem unable to consistently hit even a 1080p resolution? I think complaints would have been minimized were this a 4K HDR stream from Prime or Netflix.

    This isn't a problem with how they mastered the content necessarily. There are too many other factors, all of which have been big problems for a long, long time. I guess it just took a brain-dead episode of GoT to make the masses care. Too bad their rage is focused in the wrong direction.
     
    Hands, May 1, 2019
    #627
  8. msommers

    msommers High on Epipens

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2016
    Likes Received:
    2,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Calgary, Alberta
    Home Page:
    LOL so angry
     
    msommers, May 1, 2019
    #628
  9. elmoe

    elmoe Friend

    Pyrate Banned
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2019
    Likes Received:
    956
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Come on now, compare whats comparable. I can love Grado and hate the HD800 and you can feel the opposite. Chances are youre not going to love a CRT screen while I love OLED just because you like scanlines.

    I got no problem putting the blame on netflix, hbo, streaming in general, but if the producer is going to blame my TV settings, im going to call him out on his bullshit.

    My TV and the settings ive personally applied to it looks great for the majority of the media I watch. Not for this GoT episode, for which I spent a good 10 mins fiddling with the settings, and it still didnt look good.
     
    elmoe, May 1, 2019
    #629
  10. Hands

    Hands Overzealous Auto Flusher - Measurbator

    Staff Member Pyrate MZR
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Likes Received:
    12,287
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Colorado
    Home Page:
    People can love frame interpolation. Like Grado, it’s an abomination. Or they run the coolest setting on the TV with the sharpness all the way up. People do it and like it. Or they’re just straight ignorant and think it’s normal/good. It’s comparable to headphones. I will fight you if you like Grado and fight you if you have poor display calibration.

    A less compressed source would have done wonders for the episode. Anyone with half decent eyes and properly calibrated display, of which I assume you are not one given you kept manually fiddling with your settings, could see compression artifacts by far were the biggest problem here. Totally expected given what they were trying to portray.

    So you could argue that guy shouldn’t have focused so much on TV settings, but it’s a legit issue. And it would suck to see material get screwed over due to crappy factory TV settings and compression artifacts.
     
    Hands, May 1, 2019
    #630
  11. msommers

    msommers High on Epipens

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2016
    Likes Received:
    2,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Calgary, Alberta
    Home Page:
    I rewatched it tonight and definitely less banding and pixelation but it's still there.

    That one scene with the two dragons above the clouds with the moon in the background before they both dive down, is absolutely beautiful.
     
    msommers, May 1, 2019
    #631
  12. winders

    winders boomer

    Banned
    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2017
    Likes Received:
    1,596
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Martin, CA
    If you hate the show so much why don't you just stop watching it? The last several seasons have been quite entertaining and, based on the numbers reported watching, a lot of people agree. Is everything perfect? No, of course not. But nothing ever is. One man's "brain dead" is another man's "brilliant". I enjoyed the last episode immensely and jump out of my chair shouting "Yes!" when Arya killed the Night King. I wasn't expecting Arya to be the one to do it and I think it is a brilliant twist compared to what I did expect.

    Life is too damn short to "rage" about the direction an HBO series takes....
     
    winders, May 1, 2019
    #632
  13. Elnrik

    Elnrik Super Friendly

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Likes Received:
    8,974
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Denver CO
    Home Page:
    Clearly, you've never seen True Detective.

    Hahaha
     
    Elnrik, May 1, 2019
    #633
  14. Riotvan

    Riotvan Snoofer in the Woofer

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Likes Received:
    4,203
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Episode was indeed a bit too dark even on my calibrated plasma in a dark room. Compression artifacts were obvious as well; the posterization was quite severe. Otherwise a better episode then the first two with some memorable scenes but still decidedly meh.

    Can't wait for my 65" Oled to arrive so i can see those artifacts even better and wonder why i spent all this money....
     
    Riotvan, May 2, 2019
    #634
  15. LetMeBeFrank

    LetMeBeFrank Won't tell anyone my name is actually Francis

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2017
    Likes Received:
    3,759
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Jackson, Mi
    I borrowed a x-rite i1 display pro from my work back in 2017 and used it to get a decent calibration on my TV. Using Dell ultrasharp monitors daily, I know what a properly calibrated display is supposed to look like. The TV colors look good but the old LED just can't hang when it comes to black levels like the latest GoT episode.
     
    LetMeBeFrank, May 2, 2019
    #635
  16. elmoe

    elmoe Friend

    Pyrate Banned
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2019
    Likes Received:
    956
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Ill meet you in the alley, gloves off, Grados on. :headbang:
     
    elmoe, May 2, 2019
    #636
  17. Boops

    Boops Friend

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2015
    Likes Received:
    3,188
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    New York
    hands-snow.jpg
     
    Boops, May 2, 2019
    #637
  18. elmoe

    elmoe Friend

    Pyrate Banned
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2019
    Likes Received:
    956
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    ^ fanboi
     
    elmoe, May 2, 2019
    #638
  19. Riotvan

    Riotvan Snoofer in the Woofer

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Likes Received:
    4,203
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    I paid a professional calibrator to do the plasma, those calibration devices and software are expensive. And i agree once you're used to a calibrated display it is hard to go back. I'll get the Oled calibrated as well.
     
    Riotvan, May 2, 2019
    #639
  20. TMRaven

    TMRaven Friend

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Likes Received:
    621
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I've never much liked calibrated displays to 6500k. It's far too cold for my tastes. I usually sit around the 57-5800k mark.
     
    TMRaven, May 2, 2019
    #640
Page 32 of 55

Share This Page