Modi Multibit: Multibit for the masses.

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  1. Poleepkwa

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    Modi Multibit with older firmware incoming. I would like to upgrade it to the latest version. Shipping just the the chip to Europe is a rather expensive proposition (almost double the price of the chip itself). Would it be wiser to just send the whole things to Schiit for this update?
     
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    Wouldn't that be much more costly, and riskier, than ponying up for a new chip and installing it yourself? It's a few screws and like swapping out a DIP8 opamp, no?
     
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    I found the same thing - shipping the chip is very expensive for how tiny it is. I'm not sure if this is feasible for you, but I bought the upgrade chip along with an Asgard 3 and they didn't charge me for shipping on the upgrade. So maybe if you buy something else from Schiit and request the upgrade at the same time, you can save that shipping charge.
     
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    I figured as much, but who knows if I get new PCB too? The shipping for the chip is like 28 dollars or 50 with tracking. Maybr not bad idea to get something else too.
     
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    I think it's mostly just the firmware. Bifrost had more rolling board changes. Not sure the Modi MB had any. If so, probably incredibly minor changes.
     
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    @Poleepkwa , FWIW: I shipped my MB, bought used mid-2017 (ie a pretty early one) down to Schiit for the upgrade (this was just before they made it known they'd ship chips out to owners to do it themselves). No new PCB, just the new chip.

    Sure, the mail cost of the chip might seem expensive - but to send your DAC over would more than double that, and I don't know if this would be an issue for you, but the declared value on the returning package would likely be *the value of the DAC*, not just the chip, so maybe add brokerage and duty.

    I concur with earlier suggestions: order yourself a Fulla/Hel/Magni or something along with the chip to maximize the shipping value.
     
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    Actually no 1-bit DACs that I know of. All delta-sigma is multilevel delta-sigma, which some interpret as "Multibit." Which technically it is, but 2-5 bits is not the same as an actual multibit DAC. Hence we had to name our stuff to disambiguate it.
     
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    I placed an order allready. Gives me time to get used to the V1 sound.(again)
     
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    That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure of the exact technical terminology (or marketing) different companies might use, nor are all datasheets always as clear cut with these things.
     
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    So I just got the "impeccably measuring" latest d50s today and compared to the Modi Multibit v2.

    1st impressions, im quite underwhelmed. Yes its cleaner/clearer but that's it. The Modi Multibit while a bit warm seems to have 3-dimensional separation and realism to the sound. The D50s sounds quite flat (depth-wise) but is a step up in resolution / cleanliness.

    I'll see how it goes after comparing further.
     
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    how much the improvement of modi multibits from v1 to v2 ? is it so huge and worthed to upgrade cause i live in jakarta and the cost of delivery of the upgrade chip could exceed the price of the chip itself.. or just trade up and get myself chord mojo ?
     
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    Mojo is probably a step down, even from the Modi MB v1.

    What sort of total cost are we looking at here for the chip and shipping?
     
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    total cost for chip and shipping $70++
     
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    Yup, Fedex Int'l Economy to Asia is $36.62. USPS is $12 cheaper, but probably not worth the wait and the risk. The v2 FW is an improvement, but IMHO probably not a "$70 improvement". The difference is audible but subtle. It all depends on whether you want the satisfaction of knowing you're getting everything you can out of your Mim-by, and can afford to blow $70. If you're not satisfied with the v1 sound, I don't think v2 is going to suddenly blow your DAC mind.

    If you can afford it, but are having trouble justifying it to yourself, think of it as a $35 upgrade and compartmentalize the shipping as a separate and unavoidable cost due to where you live. One can always find ways of rationalizing spending silly amounts of money on our hobby ;)

    Yet another option is to buy something else at the same time which will reduce the cost of shipping per item. This of course means spending even more money ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Not sure what Indonesia is like, but I'm in HK and there are loads of reshippers/forwarding services that can send things over here very cheaply. If it's just a chip, it's worth looking into.
     
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    I was in the same situation. Mine was 60 dollars with shipping.
    I am pretty sure I will be keeping the Modi Multibit for a while, so in that sense I felt it is worth it.
     
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    It's less of a temperature thing and more of a voltage regulation kind of thing.
     
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    I think you still can buy some obsolete stuff. There is one guy in Ukraine that uses UDA1334BTS with custom filters. Here it is used as part of amp: http://s-audio.systems
     
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    Does anyone else have issues with the new firmware and bass clipping. I'm hearing clipping now where I haven't before. It's there at low output volume. Did they jack with the output level of the MM? It sounds to me like the output section of the dac is dialed up way too far.

    FYI - no, I'm not eq'ing. I may have to eq the bass down until I get no clipping though. :-(
     
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    I got that same clipping on a pos Topping dac. Only on certain tracks that were obviously recorded too loudly. (London Grammar)

    One thing you can try to kinda isolate what may be doing what is to use software volume and cut it about 3 db. If you still hear the clipping then you know the input side is probably okay. Not sure how one might address the output side though.
     

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