System Synergy - Special Sound

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  1. atomicbob

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    Sorry to hear that implementing the IVS is problematic for several. I have successfully installed on the following:

    Asus Ultrabook Win7 MC18
    Toshiba Satellite Win10 MC20
    Dell E7470 ultrabook Win7 MC22
    Custom I7-7500 silent desktop Win7 MC22

    Waves licensing methods are oriented towards working guest mix engineers that wish to take their toolbox to the studios where they are contracted. Offline installer and license on flash drive make it much easier to bring a familiar work environment.

    The results are very much worth the effort to my ears. So much so that I have created several transportable systems to take with me. I find it hard to listen very long without the IVS on guest systems.

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    Obviously you are not to blame Bob, it is apparently a type of use where we're out of the regular and it's no wonder the system is finicky. My feeling is the NX plug-in needs a first successful start to be stable. Problem is we can't get that first start.

    I run a specific partition for my music system, with a fresh windows 10 install, so I can't really see why the plug-in is crashing. There should literally be no conflict.

    The 14 days demo doesn't help either, it's not like I have that much time to troubleshoot every day.

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    frenchbat said:
    "Obviously you are not to blame Bob, it is apparently a type of use where we're out of the regular and it's no wonder the system is finicky. My feeling is the NX plug-in needs a first successful start to be stable. Problem is we can't get that first start.

    I run a specific partition for my music system, with a fresh windows 10 install, so I can't really see why the plug-in is crashing. There should literally be no conflict.

    The 14 days demo doesn't help either, it's not like I have that much time to troubleshoot every day."


    Just out of curiosity, do you get the same crash regardless of if you drag/drop the waves dll into Metaplugin or if you load it from the Metaplugin interface?

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    On the dedicated win 10 partition I get the dreaded "plugin couldn't load. Maybe a 32/64bts error"
    on the workhorse win 10 partition, I get the headtracker app starting and then Jriver crashes.
    These two are happening however I load the plugin.
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    I remember now having 64 bit versions crash regularly.
    JRMC wants to use the 32 bit versions of everything found in the appropriate directories in Program Files (x86)
    I use the following from Program Files (x86)
    Reference3_x86.dll
    metaplugin.dll
    WaveShell-VST 9.6.dll

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    atomicbob said:
    "I remember now having 64 bit versions crash regularly.
    JRMC wants to use the 32 bit versions of everything found in the appropriate directories in Program Files (x86)
    I use the following from Program Files (x86)
    Reference3_x86.dll
    metaplugin.dll
    WaveShell-VST 9.6.dll"


    Yep, same for me.
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    I only got the WaveShell-VST9.91.dll with the demo version. Maybe that's the problem.
    I also use the 32bits version.
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    Waves updated across the board on their plugins Apr 19, 2017. The new version accommodates 6 head trackers simultaneously for six cue mixes. Great for studio applications, not terribly useful for solo recreational listening systems. They may have broken something with this update. They are running a special at the moment (2017-05-16) for $39.00 US.

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    One thing crossed my mind a few minutes ago, @atomicbob . Pardon me if it was a brainfart, but would it be possible to record a short track after treatment with the NX plugin, so we can have a better understanding of what it does ?
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    There are two points to consider: copyrights for any source music used and that, by itself, NX doesn't deliver the impact of the full IVS so the experience might be somewhat underwhelming. I may look into obtaining permission to use a snippet of material though it may not be optimal for source demonstration.

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    FYI I've upgraded to latest NX to replicate your problem and I can confirm I now can't load it into JRiver. I don't get a crash, just an error message that it can't load. The headtracker doesn't even start.

    I'll report back when I get it to work again, otherwise I'll ask Waves to roll back my version to 9.6

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    Could you capture some screen shots of the error messages please? @Changeling you have saved me much time / trouble as I use the IVS as part of my corporate listening stations for business purposes. A migration to 9.91 at this time would be disastrous to my project schedules.

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    atomicbob said:
    "Could you capture some screen shots of the error messages please? @Changeling you have saved me much time / trouble as I use the IVS as part of my corporate listening stations for business purposes. A migration to 9.91 at this time would be disastrous to my project schedules."

    Will do in a couple of hours. But so far do NOT upgrade NX via waves central until we can figure out what's going on.

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    Here's the error message I get after upgrading to the latest Wavex NX version.
    I'm not too familiar with the different VST versions (VST, VST-2 VST-3) but I can't see anything in Metaplugins documention about VST-2 so maybe that's the problem here... VST version is not the issue. According to DDMF Metaplugin supports VST-2 and VST-3.
    I'll keep trying to see how to solve this.

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    I've tried a different wrapper as well; Blue Cat's PatchWork and I get a similar error when trying to load the 32bit version of Waves.
    I'm out of luck so far.

    I've emailed DDMF with screenshots.

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    Yep that's it. I actually managed to get the 9.91 plug-in to load in my regular system, but jriver crashes within 30 secs.
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    frenchbat said:
    "Yep that's it. I actually managed to get the plug-in to load in my regular system, but jriver crashes within 30 secs."

    I've rolled back to 9.6 following this guide:
    http://www.waves.com/support/how-to-roll-back-to-waves-v9-6 and that brought things back to normal again.
    It requires a waves Central account and a download of the offline installer of 3.2GB but maybe this could work for the rest of you as well.

    In summary: do NOT update to Waves NX 9.91 .

    Edit: the process had me updating Metaplugin to a new version as well as Waves Central, none of which caused any problems.
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    We have sound ! 9.6 version of the plugin did the trick.
    Edit : the NX plugin sounds thin by itself. It's shaving a good portion of the bass on my he6
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    Grahad2 said:
    "I asked the same about the Gungnir Multibit.
    Aside:
    Probably picking up the HAT I guess."


    I am dealing with this great conondrum at the moment, buy a USB decrapifier or replace my Bifrost Multibit for a Gungnir Multibit\Yggdrasil.

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