OMG Apple just invented wireless!

Discussion in 'IEMs and Portable Gear' started by cizx, Sep 7, 2016.

  1. TRex

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    @TwoEars I believe we'll see x-ray scans quite soon. Wonder what's inside that jumbo taptic engine. Or maybe there's a hidden secret feature.:D
     
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    You misunderstand. They had to make it more waterproof *because* people were using it as a vibrator...
     
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    Remind me to never buy a second hand iPhone. Especially from a guy.
     
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    @Armaegis LOL. Thanks for a great morning laugh!

    Btw, another surprise from Apple.
    [​IMG]
     
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    The third amplifier explains how the lightning to 3.5 adaper hit the $9 price point.

    The new architecture is going to spur some bizarre consumer behavior. I can imagine buying the Audeze IEMS primarily to get the cable to use with other IEMS.
     
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    I was against the move but think this is the beginning of the end for the headphone jack in smartphones. Once other manufacturers with much lower profit margins see Apple getting away with it they'll eventually follow suit.

    But what about fidelity? Bluetooth sucks, right? Well digital audio gained dominance through convenience, not quality. Consumers have already made wireless headphones the biggest segment of the market and that's only going to accelerate. We live in an age of instant access to media through streaming services and very few people would want to go back even if they recognize the lowered quality of the product (and many don't). C'est la vie.
     
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    In terms of getting good sound from an iPhone, losing the hp-jack is pretty meaningless. There isn't a demand from the general public for better dacs/amps inside the phone - why not challenge audio-companies to come up with better ones that are outside the phone (like Audeze's cool & handy Cipher)? Having a rubber-banded dac-amp+phone brick isn't convenient to say the least, there must be better options. Things could actually get better for portable audio, me thinks.
     
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    Statistically, no one cares. Modern pop music isn't engineered for fidelity.
    Have you listened to Taylor Swift from a really high end system?

    Why?
     
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    Fidelity. It's a myth man. Totally busted by Steve Guttenberg. Check out myth #5:

    https://www.cnet.com/news/five-audiophile-myths-totally-busted/
     
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    Isn't he the Police Academy guy?
     
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    Close. But nah. He used to be a movie theater projectionist and "record producer" according to his bio though.

    BTW, he apparently went down and took a practical approach to the iPhone 7 dilemma:

    https://www.cnet.com/news/should-wired-headphone-owners-think-twice-before-buying-an-iphone-7/

    "With the P5 S2 headphone, Orrkervil River's "Away" album sounded a little clearer over the 3.5mm headphone jack, the Lightning connection muddied the bass a bit and the sound was a little less clear overall. Next, the Chiara String Quartet's "Bartok By Heart" over Oppo PM3 headphones told a similar story; the Lightning connection lost some clarity. The sound of the Quartet's breaths as they played were slightly hushed by the Lightning connection."

    So Lightning < 3.5mm jack. But...

    "As I continued listening, the differences between Lightning and the 3.5mm connection seemed less and less significant. So unless you're really fussy about sound quality, no need to fret over losses from the Lightning adapter."

    So good 'nuff.

    Myth busted. Whatever.

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    Steve Guttenberg continues to be utterly inextricable in his opinions. He reviews some of the most expensive gear out there, but can't even provide a reasonable critique of the over-compressed music that plagues the market? I mean, the flip-side of his "uncompressed music is boring" remark is that over-compressed music sounds SO boring and makes you crank everything up in a futile effort to make it engaging.

    Any digression in quality should be seen as a flagrant negative. The iPhone owes its name to a device that existed solely to play music, and for the new device to sound worse is crazy. Not to make this a "If Jobs was still alive..." argument but, I think it might fit in this context. This is not like removing a floppy drive from a computer. CD-roms were better in EVERY way over floppy disks. If you can't excel the performance of a previous method, why replace it with inferiority?

    Edit: I know that the iMac came out a few years before the iPod, but the iPhone is most directly seen as a "spiritual" successor to the iPod.
     
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    ^

    How long til Apple screws up their courage and nixes the headphone jack from iPods? Oh wait, do people even buy iPods anymore?
     
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    Expect Apple to put more functionality in their devices until people get confused no matter how pleasant the interface. That is a trend now...
     
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