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  1. famish99
    famish99
    The rough math is that each bit theoretically affords 6db SNR. So ideally you'll get -36dB before truncation.
    Jan 21, 2019
  2. Cspirou
    Cspirou
    20*Log[10, 2.^-18] = -108dB
    Jan 21, 2019
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  3. monacelli
    monacelli
    I’m with @famish99 here, although @Cspirou gives the exact expression. But you have 6 bits of headroom, not 18. So 20*log10(2^6) = 36.124 dB. Or as mentioned, about 36 dB
    Jan 21, 2019
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  4. atomicbob
    atomicbob
    The answer depends. What is min / max if signal distribution in the 24 bit stream? You would be surprised that often there are missing codes and only 12 bits of data used when loudness wars style hyper compression has been employed. Then you can apply considerable attenuation before losing any of the lower level bits. High dynamic range recordings could possibly achieve 21 bits out of 24 bits but this is rare.
    Jan 21, 2019
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  5. atomicbob
    atomicbob
    Jan 21, 2019
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  6. Taverius
    Taverius
    Oh sure I agree, you can probably fit that one metallica album in 8 or less. I just eyeballguesstimated that the average good recording + my gear + my ears = everything past 18 is lost anyway.

    For any record or time that's truly important I go bit perfect, i just wanted to put bounds on my nervosa for all those other times.
    Jan 21, 2019
  7. atomicbob
    atomicbob
    An experiment you can perform for self enlightenment. Pick an album with drum solo. Listen with 12 dB digital attenuation vs 12 dB analog attenuation. Listen for a difference on cymbal texture or graininess on toms, etc. Same for bell like sounds.
    Jan 21, 2019
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  8. Taverius
    Taverius
    I mean, to hear the 21st bit at its intended volume peaks have to be at what 126db? More with dithering. I like my ears too much these days so the LSBs are lost no matter what.

    Maybe there's info in the 21st because peaks are very low but eh, attn. is done in fp64 anyway, so it mostly works out for those times when you do want digital attn.
    Jan 21, 2019
  9. Taverius
    Taverius
    I'll try that out one of these days, though the realities of nervosa mean I'll always turn the digital off for serious listening, no matter what I hear.
    Jan 21, 2019
  10. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    If you can stand some electronic music, try Pantha Du Prince/Bell Laboratory: Elements of Light for some hand struck bells and percussion, plus a bell carillon.
    Jan 21, 2019
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