Comments on Profile Post by Lyander

I always separate the artists/actors from the music/movies as I find I strongly disagree with most people in entertainment.

This sounds rough, but at least any new sales revenue goes to his kids, and not the molester.

All valid points. Much too easy to conflate people with the work they do sometimes, need a perspective check from time to time to keep oneself on the level :))

I find I disagree with loads of celebrities too (especially Filipino ones... Gott in Himmel the shit they say...), but I'd rather hear their stance on critcal matters than have them play coy for fear of alienating some of their fans. A culture of pandering to everyone just make it harder to have conversations about things.

Never forget those behind the scenes. Never forget Rod Temperton.

Why Guilty?

@captkirk has a great point. These kinds of things wouldn’t continue if those on the inside would do the right thing instead of enabling the celebrities/politicians that behave in an immoral or illegal manner.

@captkirk Excellent point. Many cases like these only get to happen because there are people complicit. It's such bull.

@David De Lucena Could just be me but I always feel off patronising the work of someone I know or suspect is a dickbag. I really like the Ender's Game books, for example, but Orson Scott Card is a racist bigot.

As to MJ. I enjoy the music realizing that many people were involved in creating the sound. Not just the artist.

@Ringingears Yup, art can't exist in a vacuum and that goes double for performance art. It's just that it's all to easy for disgusting things like this to taint the good aspects. I'm still pissed at McCormick for example, even though they make reasonably priced stuff for shitty home cooks :))

You always have to remember that the disease can't define the hole man. He must have suffered a lot.

@David De Lucena I can’t imagine he didn’t. He seems to have had a very terrible life. But, he passed it on to others.

@David De Lucena I completely agree. No one is entirely bereft of redeeming qualities— H was a painter and X looks like Winnie the Pooh. It's a matter of balancing who they are with what they did.

EDIT: What @Ringingears said :))

@Lyer25, if you listen to thriller, just pretend it's a Toto album, since they wrote most of the music on that album ✌️

@Mithrandir41 It's the weekend so it's my constitutional right to turn my brain off and not learn anything today dammit! (Real talk though I honestly just now heard that— TIL, and thanks)

The guy from Toto only wrote half of one song - Human Nature. It's an awesome song though!

It should console you that without Quincy Jones, MJ would not be as big as he had become. Quincy Jones was the brains, MJ mostly the voice. When you listen to old Quincy Jones albums, you realise Quincy Jones was already fusing Jazz and Disco. He was "The Dude."

Lukather, Paich, and the Porcaros are all over that album on guitar, keyboards, drums, arrangements etc.

Quincy Jones was the dude who brought all the people together. When he left, MJs career went down hill. The story about "Beat It" is a good example of how far reaching Quincy Jones' influence was...

@Lyer25 It's SBAF Court with The Hon. Judge Kunlun presiding. Our judgement is that the defendant Lyer25 is found guilty and is sentenced to watch Finding Neverland in its entirety and then report back. This court is adjourned until that time.

Already the plan, not looking forward to it all that much though :))

.... Never mind the fact that I got confused and mixed the title up with something else. Whoops.

I just read a review of the film in the Washington Post. It will be a tough viewing that is certain.

Quick update, Michael Jackson seems to have been a very broken person but I still love the music. @Ringingears tough indeed.