Comments on Profile Post by yotacowboy

  1. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    is this habit? or fear? or have folks just not heard? When I say "minority" i mean I was the only person in trader-hoes without a mask. It's kind of a mind f**k.
    May 30, 2021
  2. Ringingears
    Ringingears
    I think it’s going to take people sometime to get used to no masks. We’ve been doing this a while.
    May 30, 2021
  3. atomicbob
    atomicbob
    So much is unknown about covid-19. Can vaccinated people still be spreaders? That is not known. Wearing masks keep one's exhaled droplets to oneself and thus kicks C-19 in the nuts for spreading.
    May 30, 2021
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  4. fraggler
    fraggler
    While difficult to confirm due to a lack of contact tracing and milder symptoms, it is likely that fully vaccinated people can still get and spread the disease, as has been reported in a couple places. I don't find wearing a mask troublesome, so I have still been wearing it when out and about.
    May 30, 2021
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  5. spwath
    spwath
    Yeah I just still wear a mask to avoid making others feel uncomfortable
    May 30, 2021
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  6. dasman66
    dasman66
    In my area of PA, it took almost a week for the stores to change their rules and about 2 weeks for roughly 50-60% of the people to stop wearing masks.
    May 30, 2021
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  7. Erroneous
    Erroneous
    I have a kiddo who's too young to be able to get a vaccine yet. I definitely appreciate it when I'm around masked people in large groups (grocery store). The adults in the house are fully vaxxed. The kiddo is still at full risk.
    May 30, 2021
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  8. HotRatSalad
    HotRatSalad
    I'm fully vaxxed but I still wear a mask in public and work. I'll probably continue to wear it as long as other people are around.
    May 30, 2021
  9. GoodEnoughGear
    GoodEnoughGear
    To my mind this is a spirit of the law vs letter of the law sort of thing. What do you feel is the right thing to do, vs what is your right to do.
    May 30, 2021
  10. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    Here, still in the grips of covid and lockdown, so there is no question of going out, let alone masking, but hopefully the happy day will come.

    But, except for those to whom it is a religious issue, maybe wearing masks is not such a bad idea anyway? Lets kick a few other germs in the teeth.
    May 31, 2021
  11. Cryptowolf
    Cryptowolf
    Here it’s just easier to wear a mask in stores vs. not. No store is currently telling people not to wear a mask and many still have signs up requiring masks. I’m fully vaxxed now and will still wear a mask until the stores become more consistent.
    May 31, 2021
  12. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    To me it's a question of time and exposure given air quality/filtration. less about social norms more about dosing/exposure at least for me.
    May 31, 2021
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  13. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    7-day moving avg. of cases in my county/city is now down to 1.9, below when the city first started reporting it on 3/19/2020 (2.0).
    May 31, 2021
  14. Azimuth
    Azimuth
    Same here. I fell like I am breaking the rules wherever I go.
    May 31, 2021
  15. Ringingears
    Ringingears
    In the county where I live we are at 6. Considered medium risk. We actually have crept up a bit. Most businesses here are still requiring a mask. Probably a good precaution as less than half of the people are vaccinated.
    May 31, 2021
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  16. Merrick
    Merrick
    I also have an unvaccinated child and want to be considerate to those around me who are still vulnerable. Also I don’t want to be mistaken for an anti-vaxxer/anti-masker because f**k them.
    May 31, 2021
  17. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    Another thought: Friend of mine owns a small business, fewer than 100 employees, so i posed this mask/no mask question to him. He's got some immuno-compromised employees who can't receive the vaccine, so they're staying "mask recommended" for all staff & customers in the retail space.
    May 31, 2021
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  18. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    But here's the question I have (and I'm really not trying to be an asshole about this!!): If a number of your employees were immuno-compromised before COVID-19 showed up, would you have highly recommended masking to protect your immuno-compromised employees/patrons from influenza/pneumonia?
    May 31, 2021
  19. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    Once COVID-19 morbidity rate in gen-pop in your locality is at or below 2-per-100k this really is no more a risk than influenza.
    May 31, 2021
  20. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    Personally, I think the long term effects are going to be worse than what we're seeing now (within months of exposure) especially with higher co-morbidity complications (i.e. heart/respiratory issues due mostly do to obesity and access to health care). However, treatment regimes are bound to improve with more time/data.
    May 31, 2021
  21. Ringingears
    Ringingears
    My biggest concern is the variants of concern. We have a California variant here. And others. @atomicbob has a good point. We really don’t know enough about C-19. It’s shown itself to be a tricky Porker. Right now I’d rather error on the side of caution.
    May 31, 2021
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  22. Josh83
    Josh83
    I could be wrong, but from my understanding — and from what my mom’s doctor told her — COVID’s risks for immunocompromised people is significantly higher than the risks from flu. (For example, “ Among immunocompromised patients, those in the COVID-19 group had a higher hospital mortality compared to those in the seasonal influenza group.” https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-85081-0)
    Jun 1, 2021
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  23. Josh83
    Josh83
    I think the “versus the flu” thing is actually really interesting for schools. People have obviously been focused on learning loss from virtual this year. However, in normal years kids miss tons of learning from colds and flus — either their own time at home or teachers out sick. So if we wanted to maximize next year’s learning time, we’d want to keep masks on as long as possible. I suspect that won’t happen, though.
    Jun 1, 2021
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  24. Josh83
    Josh83
    Personally, I’m risk-averse, so I’ve been wearing my KN95 to the grocery store, record store, etc. But I’m eating at restaurants with outdoor seating. I’ve also been indoors massless with vaxxed friends and family. It’s tough to thread the needle between caution and wanting to enjoy the vaccine.
    Jun 1, 2021
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  25. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    God... imagine having to look at people's mouths again! Keep the masks.
    Jun 1, 2021
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  26. HotRatSalad
    HotRatSalad
    Some girls look Hella sexy with masks on. Especially if you already know what they look like and have nice eyes
    Jun 1, 2021
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  27. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    @Josh83 that's why I added the "i'm not trying to sounds like an asshole"; I'm not trying to compare COVID to the flu from a mortality or longevity perspective, just trying to place the risk of infection based on number of known cases per 100k if we get down below a case per day, on average in my city of ~120,000.
    Jun 1, 2021
  28. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    it has me wondering, too, since flu immunization is to the moon these last two years what that means to an at-risk cohort in general. I wouldn't be surprised if 2021-2022 influenza season sees 200M doses delivered.
    Jun 1, 2021
  29. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    This has changed my personal view of simple flu vaccination, too, in that I've never personally received a flu vaccine, but I will likely seek it out this season simply for the safety of others.
    Jun 1, 2021
  30. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    But, today the public shaming began - at Costco, while I remain maskless, two older women made it a point to either scowl at me or point to her own mask and shake her head at me. If only we had this sort of feeling of disgust for distracted driving.
    Jun 1, 2021
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  31. JayC
    JayC
    Correct me here if i am wrong - wouldnt wearing a mask still help after being vac'd? You could still get infected/carry the virus and spread it
    Jun 4, 2021
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