is this habit? or fear? or have folks just not heard? When I say "minority" i mean I was the only person in trader-hoes without a mask. It's kind of a mind f**k.
So much is unknown about covid-19. Can vaccinated people still be spreaders? That is not known. Wearing masks keep one's exhaled droplets to oneself and thus kicks C-19 in the nuts for spreading.
While difficult to confirm due to a lack of contact tracing and milder symptoms, it is likely that fully vaccinated people can still get and spread the disease, as has been reported in a couple places. I don't find wearing a mask troublesome, so I have still been wearing it when out and about.
I have a kiddo who's too young to be able to get a vaccine yet. I definitely appreciate it when I'm around masked people in large groups (grocery store). The adults in the house are fully vaxxed. The kiddo is still at full risk.
Here it’s just easier to wear a mask in stores vs. not. No store is currently telling people not to wear a mask and many still have signs up requiring masks. I’m fully vaxxed now and will still wear a mask until the stores become more consistent.
In the county where I live we are at 6. Considered medium risk. We actually have crept up a bit. Most businesses here are still requiring a mask. Probably a good precaution as less than half of the people are vaccinated.
I also have an unvaccinated child and want to be considerate to those around me who are still vulnerable. Also I don’t want to be mistaken for an anti-vaxxer/anti-masker because f**k them.
Another thought: Friend of mine owns a small business, fewer than 100 employees, so i posed this mask/no mask question to him. He's got some immuno-compromised employees who can't receive the vaccine, so they're staying "mask recommended" for all staff & customers in the retail space.
But here's the question I have (and I'm really not trying to be an asshole about this!!): If a number of your employees were immuno-compromised before COVID-19 showed up, would you have highly recommended masking to protect your immuno-compromised employees/patrons from influenza/pneumonia?
Personally, I think the long term effects are going to be worse than what we're seeing now (within months of exposure) especially with higher co-morbidity complications (i.e. heart/respiratory issues due mostly do to obesity and access to health care). However, treatment regimes are bound to improve with more time/data.
My biggest concern is the variants of concern. We have a California variant here. And others. @atomicbob has a good point. We really don’t know enough about C-19. It’s shown itself to be a tricky Porker. Right now I’d rather error on the side of caution.
I could be wrong, but from my understanding — and from what my mom’s doctor told her — COVID’s risks for immunocompromised people is significantly higher than the risks from flu. (For example, “ Among immunocompromised patients, those in the COVID-19 group had a higher hospital mortality compared to those in the seasonal influenza group.” https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-85081-0)
I think the “versus the flu” thing is actually really interesting for schools. People have obviously been focused on learning loss from virtual this year. However, in normal years kids miss tons of learning from colds and flus — either their own time at home or teachers out sick. So if we wanted to maximize next year’s learning time, we’d want to keep masks on as long as possible. I suspect that won’t happen, though.
Personally, I’m risk-averse, so I’ve been wearing my KN95 to the grocery store, record store, etc. But I’m eating at restaurants with outdoor seating. I’ve also been indoors massless with vaxxed friends and family. It’s tough to thread the needle between caution and wanting to enjoy the vaccine.
@Josh83 that's why I added the "i'm not trying to sounds like an asshole"; I'm not trying to compare COVID to the flu from a mortality or longevity perspective, just trying to place the risk of infection based on number of known cases per 100k if we get down below a case per day, on average in my city of ~120,000.
it has me wondering, too, since flu immunization is to the moon these last two years what that means to an at-risk cohort in general. I wouldn't be surprised if 2021-2022 influenza season sees 200M doses delivered.
This has changed my personal view of simple flu vaccination, too, in that I've never personally received a flu vaccine, but I will likely seek it out this season simply for the safety of others.
But, today the public shaming began - at Costco, while I remain maskless, two older women made it a point to either scowl at me or point to her own mask and shake her head at me. If only we had this sort of feeling of disgust for distracted driving.
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