That's kinda the point, @zonto - the Utopia is one of the few cans that doesn't have that upper-mid suckout that can eat violins and so forth.. It's ludicrous how few choices there are that don't fail at this, I'm trying hard to unlearn how to hear it, so far with limited success, it's a bit "don't think about the elephant".
@Kattefjaes - sorry for showing you that Bruckner 5th passage that breaks almost all headphones I heard at meets! It does show how good the HD650 is at rendering it, right? :-)
@zonto - I will expect a narrow stage but the HD800/S relies on the sucked upper mids to render it. The sound on Yggdrasil Rag could be a surprise as the brightish sound I heard might have been the Naim amp at the meet.
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