Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by velvetx, Nov 17, 2015.
For that price,
It would be great for modding..
See what potential it can really do..
That is probably wrong... but I just ordered one in case they honor it.
The price was an accident. They just refunded me.
Ahh I see. They probably meant the pricing to be $850 total, and not for a $850 discount.
They pulled me in and i got a listen to it yesterday. They were really priding themselves on their tinkering with 'phase', saying no one really looks at that, to blacken the floor noise. Impressed i was with how silent it really was and the build quality of the product, but not completely blown away with it's transparency and soundstage. While separation was great, Marv has made comments before on music sounding 'digitized' and i think that's what i actually heard for the first time. i'm not sure if that is related to the amp or their DAC prototype. i'd like to give it another listen, but i think they can still tinker with it's musicality and transparency if not soundstage. i give it a 7 out of 10.
In the price range, I would still pick the Mjolnir 2. It brings what this is missing. I was listening them both through my hard to drive stock ATH R70x, both high gain. I didn't get a look at the back of the Heron, but it's input options on the front were a single ended hi and single ended low (2 separate inputs).
This really isn't selling too well if they're already on Massdrop shortly after halving the RRP.
Don't knock em too hard, they're straight outta college kids bringing something new to a hobby saturated with established names and not very good marketing. At least they know where to set themselves up to get out there (i.e. - Massdrop and certain "named" local trade shows). We're in a hobby of "hear it to believe it". And to believe they have a physical product that didn't go the crowd funding route, IMO, is a big statement of trying hard to fit in, especially to those still waiting years for a certain product (LH).
I'd be much more interested if the graphs on their spec pages weren't limited to frequency and phase response, especially when they're boasting ≥ 132 dB SNR. I mean if they're going to provide charts at all may as well go full mile.
I do however wholeheartedly appreciate the design. Audio gear doesn't have to be ugly as shit and a nice enclosure with a nice pot and knob is not going to be the end of the world and ruin audio fidelity. Plus less is more as you can see with the Heron 5 and Schiit product designs.
Alright, I see that there has been some confusion here and just want to clear it up. Version 1 which was commented on here did have some issues. However, the new and improved version 2 fixed the obvious price issue as well as the volume issue. Overall I liked version 1 but yes it didn't feel like it was driving my hd650 properly. Version 2 however, sounds much improved.
While reading one the reviews that someone in the loaner program had written , I thought he made a mistake on which output jack he'd used for his listening impressions.. The headphone he used was a high efficiency ,25 ohm HP,, but he'd used the "High" output.
I questioned him on this, & I don't know if this is common procedure, but the Airist manual suggests using the "Low" output for High Impedance HPs & the "High" ioutput for low impedance HPs. I wonder if this could have effected the impressions that this amp is underpowered when trying to drive high imped. HPs.
Having reported his normal volume setting for the NH headphone he was using was at about 10 or 11 O'clock I wouldn't have thought to be as high as this on the High output. I would have expected that to be where you'd be moving the volume control if you where using the "Low" output.
Did Airist simply mislabel the jacks & then cover the mistake by offering an explanation on how the outputs should be used. It would be a bit more staighfoward if Headpone Amplifier were more clear about all this to begin with.
looks like it 1000$ now anyone have impressions?
750 on massdrop, 2 more buyers needed
thats a hell of a price drop from 2k!
I listened to this amp for an extended period at a meet a few weeks ago. I'm going against the grain and am saying that at $750 I was really impressed with this amp. With the 650 and Ether it paired nicely and sounded better than many amps that I've owned. Clean, dynamic. They mids were damned nice. Vocal jazz had me wide eyed. I'd probably grab this on MD for this price.
Technically that's a price drop from their new $999 price, it's even the stated MSRP on the drop.
I have to ask "going against" what "grain" ?
You were honestly worried that your impressions are any less valid than what others may have had to say
about this amp ? Are we required to write a "prelude" to what we say if it does'nt follow a thread of some previously reported skepticism ?
I don't know about anyone else, but I think it's kind of counterproductive to even participate in these discussions if we act like "Apologists"whenever our take on things is a bit contrary to whatever "flow" has been generated in the discussion. ( "Well, I was deferring to others who may be more knowledgeable than myself " ) Who will it be listening to the equipment ? Exactly
YMMV, IMHO, MY2c, BOGABOGABOGA, (Allright, you can go back your "Humbleness" ; excluding those of you who will always be clueless to the meaning of the word; though you are probably able to "measure" it ! )
I don't remember anyone saying it was bad.
I myself remember it sounding very nice and clean.
It just wasnt powerful,
And now it is stated to have been resolved, which is logical they had to do in order to accomplish stated specs.
It was transparent enough for me to enjoy their Dac using it.
The combo was very clean sounding.
Yet I was only interested in their dac.
What do you guys think about trying to sell an amp for $2000 and then dropping the price to $749?
Reminds me of MONTRES ALLISON.
I think I might call it "Business Inexperience".
It may have been just a matter of being a bit too "ambitious" in their pricing of their first product. From what I could gather in reading about this company, there isn't any mention that any of them having prior experience in Higher End Audio. ( & to be honest ,what is considered reasonably priced & what is not is about as subjective as your "pocket" will allow you to be !)
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