Anime/Manga Thread

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  1. chakku

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    If anyone cares about airing stuff, Banana Fish is the only thing worth watching. OP is great too. MAPPA adapting old manga is a godsend, they did a great job with Ushio to Tora as well.

     
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    Just finished Hajime No Ippo. The first season, 76 episodes. I wish I could explain it but the story works. Add to that the dynamic animation of the fights and action moments with that beautiful Japanese art style that works with simple lines and stark contrasts. Since Hunter X Hunter and Berserk (original anime) I have not seen something this good. Then there is the realism and honest script. I am fan.



    The way they animated the Dempsey Roll is a thing of beauty. CG is not the answer. Drawn images still work better...

    P.S. There is only one exception for great CG in my experience: Ghost In The Shell. That is a high standard...
     
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    Great CGI:

    - Ginga Kikoutai Majestic Prince
    - Houseki no Kuni
    - Garo: Honoo no Kokuin & Divine Flame
    - Girls und Panzer series

    Some examples:



    (Try to ignore the terrible SVP 60FPS crap, it was the only video I could find of this online)


     
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    In the better Mecha-anime series, in particular the newer Gundam series CG actually works to tell a better story. My problem with CG is what the reboot of "Berserk" gave us. If you cannot make it at least as good as the manga, give up.
     
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    Rewatching Cowboy Bebop (the series) on remastered Blu Ray. Goddamn I love that show!
     
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    I've just started watching a new release called "That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime" with the wife, and we are thoroughly enjoying it. Very entertaining, and high budget. We continue to watch One Piece, though this arc has dragged on a bit, and are also watching the newest season of Sword Art Online:Alicization, which is much better than the 2nd season in my opinion.

    Has anyone else checked out the extremely gritty new show Goblin Slayer?
     
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    Alicization does a much better job of telling a story than the previous series, I think. It also helps that the anikatioa (EDIT: animation— how the f**k even with that typo) is lovely!

    As for Goblin Slayer, it's edgy as hell at times and makes unfortunate use of
    rape as a plot device
    , but aside from that is a great dark fantasy show. Animation leans a bit too heavily on CGI and characters go off-model a bit, but apart from that is good-looking, maybe slightly bland. Enjoyable for basically being medieval high fantasy Batman. I read the manga a few months back and they seem to have omitted a more contentious arc from the anime, and one scene I absolutely loved from the manga was executed pretty poorly in a recent episode. On the whole it's a passable time-waster I'd say, but definitely not for more sensitive people (especially the manga).
     
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    Glad to see there are some recommendations for Banana Fish in here, I have been going back and forth between whether or not I should start it and I think I will. As someone who has been watching anime for the better part of a decade I'm starting to think it is going to turn into a lifelong thing like audio has for me, and I'm okay with that.

    So, for my first recommendation in this thread, I will throw out "Elfen Lied" for any of you who may not have seen it by now. I would consider it a classic. As for a manga recommendation, "Claymore" is by far one of my absolute favorites. I am still upset by how badly they botched the anime adaptation. (Don't bother looking it up.) I'm still holding out for a proper reboot someday.
     
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    I finished the entire Naruto series (Shonen and Shippuden) some time ago, and didn't complete my thoughts about it. Lots of spoilers following this sentence so beware.

    Towards the end of Shonen, the antagonist moves away from Orochimaru to Sasuke. And things take up from there in Shippuden since other sideline antagonists arise. Originally it starts with the Akatsuki w Nagato. Later it turns out the Akatsuki really are commanded by Obito Uchiha, who in turn is/was manipulated by Madara Uchiha, who in turn is/was manipulated by Black Setsu / Kaguya (a godess in some sense). Things go down as Sasuke and Naruto accumulate demigod powers with one complementing the other, and take on Kaguya herself. And then fight each other, with Sasuke finally getting control over his own hatred w the help of Naruto.

    Though it seems many things were made as things went, it is not bad.

    The one thing that bothered me greatly was the complete lack of backstory for Naruto's early years. It seems the 3rd Hokage was tasked with supporting Naruto from baby and on by the 4th Hokage (Naruto's father). Nothing of the sort seems to have happened. In fact, Naruto seems to become acquainted w Hiruzen Sarutobi around the age of 3 or 4. Then who the hell changed Naruto's diapers? Who feed him mothers milk / formula? Who helped him up on his first walking steps? WTF Kishimoto???

    On the other hand, Obito's story is a strike of genius IMO. I love that story. To this date, Obito (a divisive character) is my favorite anime character. Here is what I mean:

    OBITO

    An orphan (like most every random manga main character) Obito is raised by his grandmother. Therefore, unlike Naruto, it seems someone was looking after baby Obito. Being part of the elite and powerful Uchiha clan, Obito has high hopes and ambitions about himself. And along with it a good moral compass. Obito however struggles quite a bit to meet such expectations about himself, and fails more often than not. He falls in love with Rin, a girl that cares for him. However, Rin herself falls for Kakashi, a boy who in turn becomes Obito's source of envy given Kakashi's early development and capabilities.

    Eventually, through war and pain, Obito develops his Sharingan (an Uchiha source of power), and somewhat surpasses Kakashi for a few hours, since Obito sacrifices himself to save Kakashi from certain death. Obito is left for death. Eventually Rin confesses her love for Kakashi, but Kakashi does not deem himself worthy of her. Obito is rescued and trained by Madara Uchiha, at the time the most powerful Uchiha and second only in the shinobi history to Hashirama Senju (long death). Obito grows, but he is tricked into watching Rin die by the hand of Kakashi when she throws herself to his lighting blade. She commits this type of suicide to avoid blowing up as a Mist ninja's retaliation Jinchuriki bomb. This triggers Obito's Mangekyo Sharingan, which is the ultimate power within the Uchiha.

    Obito becomes enranged and uses his Uchiha and Hashirama cell's power (implanted in Obito to recover from his lost limbs) on a platoon of elite Mist ninja's, eliminating them in a matter of seconds. Obito is finally told Madara's plans and agrees to carry them forward. Obito immediately retaliates against the Leaf and causes a small disaster through the nine tails fox (which causes the death of Naruto's parents), triggering Naruto's arch and series origin. Obito eventually becomes the defacto Mist ninja leader behind the scenes, extracting revenge at all levels (reason for Zabuza's rebellion). Obito assists Itachi in the Uchiha's extermination, triggering Sasuke's arch. Obito manipulates and eventually gains control of the Akatsuki, which are Shippuden's first half antagonists (and cause Jiraya's death). Through Nagato, Obito causes a second mayor catastrophe in the Leaf village, showing the depths of Obito's determination and hate.

    As things become clear in the anime, it is shown that Obito supervises the demise of Danzo through Sasuke. Danzo is the powerful black hand of the Leaf, a means-justifies-the-ends sort of leader. Obito is also shown to be the cause of Itachi's own Sharingan after Obito overpowers Itachi and kills a teammate and close friend in front of him.

    Eventually, Obito allies with Kabuto (after Orochimaru's temporary demise by the hands of Sasuke), and start the 4th ninja war, which bring about the resurrection of Madara himself. During this time Obito becomes one of the few to wield the Rinnengan's power (only 2 other shinobi did - Hagoromo does not count as he is no shinobi and in fact predates shinobi), controls zombie Jinchuriki, becomes the ten tail's Jinchuriki, and by all means almost destroys the shinobi world as the Naruto universe knows it. It becomes known to Naruto what drives Obito, and through this Naruto is able to bring back Obito from the hell of hate he is living.

    Kaguya emerges as the godess controlling the strings, and Obito plays several pivotal roles in helping the dynamic Naruto/Sasuke duo defeat her, sacrificing his life for all that he once held important to him.

    This was developed as Kishimoto went, and it's very well rendered (unlike Sasuke's and Naruto's stories). Obito's is one of the best anime full stories ever told IMO (specially considering he is an antagonist for about 95.82587% of the series, and turns around for 4.17413% of the remaining story).

    In some ways Obito's story is an example of a back story for a character such as Vader that Lucas was impotent to produce. Unlike Kishimoto and Martin, Lucas and "D&D" can't write for shit.
     
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    Didn't know this thread was a thing.....

    I mostly fell out of Anime/Manga as I gotten older, due to I swear the majority of material out there wasn't aimed for me. I was never into Shonen shows, I was mostly into 80s/90s OVAs that started to make Anime more popular in the US at the time. I remember having the old laserdisc releases from Pioneer and Steamline Pictures from back in the day. I wasn't old enough to buy them new, I gotten then from a collector in the area a long time ago. I thought something like Vampire Hunter D was amazing, including MD Geist (everyone's favorite punching bag).

    I think I also have a problem that a lot of the art just doesn't appeal to my senses. I will admit I'm bias, I never got over the look of Anime when everything flipped over to computers in the early 2000s. I always thought the traditional cell-based animation was so warm in the color pallet, more detailed, and have the human hand touch that at least to me the current computer based stuff just can't compete. Then again, cell-based animation cost too much and it isn't convenient.

    As of late I been reading the Blackjack manga that Vertical published a few years back. Better to get the e-book version of the series since the later volumes are hard to find in physical. Glad I own my Kindle Oasis, it's nice to read the manga on e-ink.

    While not truly a manga, the original Legend of the Galactic Heroes novel series is fully coming out in the US in English. Viz started releasing the English versions many year ago, but they didn't promise they will publish the full ten volume series. They were doing a "wait and see" approach. Well, volume 9 and 10 will be released this year (both on pre-order on Amazon). This is amazing by itself. Now if Viz can only translate the Gaiden releases of LOGH.

    The original OVA of LOGH is epic, too bad Sentai Filmworks kind of screwed up the OVA release in the US. I think it's due to the contract agreement with the license holder. There's the reboot coming out, which I don't care about at all.
     
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    Watch "Hajime No Ippo", the hype is real and the seasons have little to no filler.
     
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    Friend of mine went a little crazy couple years back buying tons of anime figures. Now he wants to move apartments but has well over 100 figures to try to figure out how to deal with.

    Few options revolve around selling individual figures on like eBay but that could take a while.

    There is big anime figure store in LA called Anime Jungle that buys back figures for around 40% of list price. But they are over 50 miles away from him and they themselves are not taking any buybacks until after Anime Expo. And the evaluation process will probably take hours as they look and inspect every box. We could possibly send them a pallet of figures he has so many.

    Other option was renting a storage unit and stuffing them there for now.

    Not a whole lot of great options.
     
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    My friend who lives with his mom, 35, virgin, has about 3,000+ pieces in his collection. Half is in his small bedroom and the other half is in the storage unit. Since I'm in FL, the storage unit gets HOT inside. Almost perfect conditions to have melting toys (which deep down inside it makes me happy).
     
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    There is a lot of very high quality manga out there for mature readers, they just aren't nearly as hyped up as the shonen/seinen stuff.

    For example: Hotel: Since AD2079 by Boichi, Eden: It's an Endless World by Hiroki Endo, or even
    Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (the manga, not the anime movie, which is aimed at a completely different audience imo).
     
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    Try this:

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    This started out like "oh Gott in Himmel not another isekai" for me, but came around because I loved the way it deconstructed a lot of the tropes of the... genre (I'm ambivalent about calling isekai a genre since it's more a situational thing, but there seem to be a great many commonalities to isekai LNs/manga/anime that warrant the label). There were some genuinely intense moments that make it stand out among modern anime for how it panders to both "serious" audiences and the (d)weebs who were inevitably attracted to it by virtue of the premise.

    Speaking of isekai, anyone here watched El-Hazard or Strange Dawn? Those were some of the shows I started off really getting into when I was a kid. I'd clear my schedule to catch the 6PM airings on AXN, haha.

    Man, I actually kinda miss TV schedules.

    @Deep Funk And +1 Sword of the Stranger, the action scenes are f'ing brilliant, and the whole movie is just well-made. It's not groundbreaking in any sense of the word but you can tell that a lot of care went into the storyboarding and the animation process— sakuga to beat out One Punch Man S1 I'd say (not sure about S2, I really did just give up w watching it early into the series) :p
     
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    Just watched Castlevania on Netflix. Holy cow, this was enjoyable!
     
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    Late response, but thanks!

    Semi-Off Topic: How do people read their digital manga? I just can't do Tablets. I been happy with my first gen Kindle Oasis displaying manga. At times it's slightly small. New gen three Kindle Oasis is coming out with a seven inch screen with warm lighting. The storage increase will help a lot.

    If you guys weren't aware, a lot of the Osamu Tezuka mangas has been translated into English and available in both physical and electronic via Amazon. It appears all the Blackjack Manga vols are available in English for $7.99 a pop on the Kindle. Phoenix is also available as well.
     
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    I liked reading manga on my nexus 7, small enough to not get in the way. I also download all my manga so there were a few apps pretty handy for reading. Otherwise on desktop I use CDisplay to read stuff I download.
     

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