Anyone have an OLED TV?

I have this TV, which is a 1080p LG OLED: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/eg9100

It looks great when the source material is high quality. But most of the time, if I'm streaming from Netflix or similar and the source quality is the bottleneck, I honestly can't tell the difference between this and a simple few-years-old 32" Samsung 1080p most of the time when viewing distance is accounted for. Sometimes it's worse than the Samsung, as the OLED screen makes imperfections in the recording very apparent in an unflattering way. So, YMMV depending on your usage, the price may not always be justified by your viewing needs.

 

I couldn't resist and got it. I will up my game in terms of source quality. Me and a buddy watched a lot of 720p content at the store side by side with LCD, and the OLED was worth it to me. Oddly enough one of the decisions factors was the 4K Sony demo video. There is a white Sony logo in the upper left. Whenever there was a back background, there was a halo around the logo on the LCD TVs, but not on the LG.

 

Congrats @AllanMarcus ! I had a chance to set up the Sansung SUHD today and it looks real nice. It's very difficult to take a picture a TV at night, but here's a try

 

Well, my wife and I are very happy with the LG so far, but it took 15 minutes for the TV to boot this morning, and daytime reflections are WAY worse than reviews would indicate. This TV is li,e a mirror. No reflection control whatsoever. I have no idea what RTings what thinking when they commented that reflections were kept under control.

Now most of our viewing is nighttime, so not too big a deal. Also, I thing we will get a black curtain to optionally run behind out our viewing area.

Two images. One with TV playing and one without. I mean the TV is watchable int eh daylight, but the reflections on some scenes is very significant.

 

@AllanMarcus Which model did you get? I noticed that Rtings tests reflection by using light bulbs, not a bright window.

 

3 bright windows at that. Judging by the magenta-tinted reflections, I'm assuming the tv has anti-glare coating on it. If it wasn't coated, you'd get the reflections and a considerable amount of glare that would wash everything out.

 

That's why I asked about your lighting situation. Windows are the worst.

Speaking from experience, rather than getting black curtains I would suggest simply getting blackout curtain liners and having your wife pick whatever curtains she wants for the room's decor. Win win.

If you do go for actual black, go to Bed, Bath and Beyond and look for the super thick black blackout curtains they have for about $40 a pop. Total Blackout brand/model. Have those in our bedroom and they are great.

Remember to double up the curtains and extend them above and further to the side of the windows! Curtains + liners will also absorb high frequencies off the rear windows, improving your sound.

 

I got the OLED65B6P. $3004 from my local ListenUp (that included tax).

I'm not planning on putting curtains over the windows, as they are in a solarium. The back of the family room opens into the solarium. I was thinking of putting the black out curtain between the two room. Some light will leak above , but it should block 90% of the window glare. I'll post a picture soon.

I'm thinking of those curtain trans like they have in a hospital (but not stainless, I would get white tracks for the ceiling)



Basically I'm thinking of bringing the ceiling mounted speakers forward towards the chairs (better for atoms) and putting the curtain track about the edge of the ceiling before the solarium. I would put a short, permanently mounted curtain on either side of the track to hid it, and prevent light. Then I would just slight to curtain to the right (in this picture) to open it. It would be open most of the time.

 

I'm insane. I just returned the Tv to ListenUp for a full refund. I found it on Adorama via Newegg for the exact same price ($3000), but it comes with a $600 Newegg gift card! I'll add $100 and get an SVS SB-2000 sub.

 

What. 15 minutes??

 

I think it might have been doing an update or something. That issue didn't happen again.

 

Window reflections will still be a bitch even with those semi-matted screens. It'll be more diffuse, & smeared, but you'll still see the light from the window being reflected back from the screen.

As far as I know, they stopped making big screen TV's that are fully matte for years now.

There is not solution other than angle or position the TV where it isn't perpendicularly facing a open window or light.

 

Thanks. Our plan is to install blackout curtains that go across the back of the room. That's my project after I install new overhead Atmos speakers

 

This is crazy late but to add to this, LG OLEDs also have the benefit of no PWM-induced flickering. Meaning a lot of sample-and-hold related artifacts become a non-issue. Its the one mortal sin of just about every non-Sony LCD TV on the market.

I find this stuff real easy to notice in a poorly lit room...the pathetically low 120hz dimming frequencies found in most TVs do nothing but give me headaches after long viewing periods. It is also easy for me to notice the "double image" artifact such TVs produce when trying to render fast moving content. IMO Rting's review of the Samsung KS8000 motion performance is preeeeettty optimistic.

It confuses me why TV manufacturers still use extremely low PWM dimming frequencies this after monitor manufacturers have sent PWM dimming to the grave, no matter the product tier.

 

Been following this guy's channel on and off since he makes good content and this one goes a long way towards explaining why I seem to prefer how objects in motion look on the 120Hz OLED on my mobile versus the 144Hz IPS on my PC and absolutely despise how VAs look even though I do like their almost exaggerated contrast ratio.

That said IPS is getting affordable enough that it's worth getting over VA for the cleaner looking colours (vs TN) and the tangible advantage it has over VA's speed.



With how Mini LEDs seem to be striking the best balance between colour, contrast, and motion, hoping the tech there gets good and cheap soon provided society's still around in a little bit.

 

I saw a meme of people drawing memes and sharing the papers in an end-of-times-no-internet situation. I sometimes think we are more likely headed there than full-wall micro-led panels like I saw talked about a few years ago.

 

I'm with you there, but can't help but hope that "common sense" might actually not be a misnomer. There are already way too many reasons to be stressed out over things, I'm going to be obsessing over trivialities for a bit

 

Not entirely related but has anyone tried one of the oleds where the speaker is the oled panel/glass like they put actuators behind it? Might only be the newish sonys that do that but I was just wondering if anyone has tried them as a center channel or anything like that, like how good is the speaker panel? I guess I've mostly stuck to 2.x audio anyhow, but I am curious.

 

Hah, besides cost of nice OLED panels being kinda prohibitive still, the main reason I went with an IPS was out of the box colours being relatively spot on (might have mentioned elsewhere but I totally get you on inky blacks being lower on the priority list than, say, colour accuracy).

Off-axis viewing isn't nearly as important for PC use IMO, though it certainly helps when watching stuff on Netflix with a larger group. Maybe I'm inured because I was on a Samsung BX2250 (an old TN monitor from 2011 I think?) for ages before upgrading to the current monitor.

My main PC monitor now is a BenQ EX2510. It's "only" 1080p and frankly more expensive than spec contemporaries (24.5in IPS at 144Hz) but based on loads of measurements and reviews it's actually got usable overdrive and a backlight strobing mode that has great crosstalk figures. Ironically I prefer the look without strobing so that was wasted consideration.

Another nice thing was the fact that I managed to find some ICC profiles to test-load into DisplayCal to sort white balance and un-crush shadow detail (there's a lot lost in shadows with factory settings); I lose the rich dark tones but everything else turns up excellent. Local dimming might have removed the need for compromise but since hdr10 content is still relatively scarce I don't feel that's a particularly egregious thing to leave on the table.

It definitely is a matter of preferences. For comparison: the parents bought a Samsung Q80T 55in out of nowhere after our previous TV died during a storm. This purchase cemented my distaste for VA, though I've learned to ignore it during movie nights. They seem to really like it but it was hard to ignore how juddery things were, not to mention the fact that they had motion interpolation enabled. Shudder.

Huh. Definitely lots of parallels between this and DACs, in retrospect.