Anyone have an OLED TV?

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  1. netforce

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    Been wanting to do the LG OLED as my monitor idea but 48" was little overkill for me, was kind of thinking of maybe getting the 42" coming later this year. That seemed to work better for me size wise.

    Alienware/Samsung has their new AW3423DW OLED monitor using Samsung OLED tech for $1300 and just started taking orders on it. If price wasn't so high on it, I might have considered it but the LG has the advantage to me of still being a tv.

    For me the 42" LG coming later this year has probably my highest interest but launch price will probably start high and then come down hard and fast. C1 48" at $1099 seems something to consider for me as well. As more OLEDs become mainstream I can see prices continue to fall and fall.
     
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    Has there been a satisfactory way to compensate for the inevitable OLED burn-in? I'm guessing that'll be at significantly higher risk of happening when used as a desktop where there are many static elements on-screen for extended periods of time. Perhaps overthinking it but even if wear were distributed by shifting UI elements a few pixels off at intervals like how Samsung phones do their Always On Display thing that's still bound to happen eventually.
     
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    Dell/Alienware solution seems to be to carry a 3 year warranty on their monitors to include burn in.

    But knowing Dell, its probably going to be a nightmare to deal with. Friend had a line develop on his Alienware monitor, CS wanted him to replace the panel and send back the defective panel. If he was having trouble they would send a tech out for him.

    He was hesitant but ultimately said ok only for Dell to spend months not sending him anything till they finally just sent a replacement monitor.
     
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    I bought that Dell QD-OLED. A bit expensive here with markup, but I still feel like it's a crazy steal of a price. I'm big on panel quality and this is the sort of upgrade I've been waiting for for a long while.
     
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    I have the A80J 65 in but I'm not using it as a center speaker. From some people who were doing that, the issue is the timbre can be an issue if it sounds different from your speakers.

    For built-in speakers, it is damn good to the point I didn't need a sound bar.
     
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    I've been keeping tabs on that from people that have Cx and c1 displays with hundreds of even thousands of hours on them. Worse case scenario from what I gather from people that use them for work more than games is barely detectable. Even after using the OLED in the worse ways with constant desktop static things. I think it's safe to say as a gaming/movie screen it's a complete non issue.
     
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    My C1 (55") has been flawless as a movie/gaming screen.

    It's still be hesitant to use OLED as a desktop monitor.
     
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    Also nearly forgot that they's effectively a way to level things out, use of white noise or something to that effect? Though it's akin to sanding down the finish on a glass panel after it gets a deep enough gouge, so the maximum brightness is noticeably reduced. Cool that it's fixable though
     
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    I'd think so too, but Dell seems pretty confident their tech tech eliminates the chances of burn in. The Alienware monitor comes with a 3 year warranty including burn in. And in NZ warranty support is very good.
     
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    I'll report back in a year. I play it safe and set the taskbar and icons on the desktop to disappear after 10 seconds when I don't use them. I leave a screensaver with random stuff running for a few minutes before the PC goes to sleep.
     
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    Might help for LG owners
    https://www.lg.com/us/experience-tvs/oled-tv/reliability
    There are also three options (available in Menu setting > Picture settings > OLED panel settings) that can be used to preserve image quality. The first of these is the Clear Panel Noise feature that preserves the quality of the image on the display panel by resetting the TV so that it clears the pixels. This feature can be turned on when needed within the settings mentioned above. The second feature that can be employed is the Screen Shift feature which, moves the screen slightly at regular intervals to preserve image quality. A third option is the Logo Luminance Adjustment, which can detect static logos on the screen and reduce brightness to help decrease permanent image retention.
     
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    I don't want my first post on this forum to be a fanboy post for a youtuber, but HDTVTest releases very informative videos on the latest and greatest.

    I read over some of the forum rules: measurable data above all else - no subjective statements that can't be backed up with graphs, statistics, and measurements.

    HDTVTest embodies that, but for TV reviews. He's a certified ISF Certified Calibrator and ensures to thoroughly test TVs pre calibration and post calibration. He always shares all of his findings as he isn't beholden to any manufacturer.

    Now that I have provided a source that can back up subjective statements, OH Muh Gerd OLED is such a game changer.

    My good friend has a Sony A90J and I stayed with a family member for a month that owned an A80J - I made sure to go through HDTVTests guide on how to properly configure the TV settings to get as close to proper image reproduction as possible without hiring an ISF calibrator.
    My impression: Dolby Vision and HDR10+ looks gorgeous. Dune, Horrible movie; Absolutely stunning.
    Clarkson's farm: I have never seen more beautiful country side.

    In the past generation, the C1 firmware had an exploit that allowed users to mod their TV into the g1 profile and enable 20% brighter colors. This would be very stupid to actually run long term as the c1 and g1 didn't have built in heatsinks for the oled panel resulting in high risk of burnin and breaking your TV.

    The Sony A90J had roughly 10% better bright and colors than the LG G1. The LG G1 and A90J used the same panel, made by LG, but since the a90J had a beefy heatsink, they are able to push the panel harder and produce 10% brighter colors.

    The main fault of last gen oleds was how they required a dark room to be able to produce the beautiful bright colors.

    Also, Sony Mediatek chip and only has two hdmi 2.2 ports, where as the LG's have 4.

    Ironically, the better TV option requires you to likely have to buy a couple hundred dollar add on to make it easier to use - no one wants to try to get behind a thin af mounted TV to swap a thick stiff certified 8k hdmi cable. If you have multiple devices you'll likely want to purcahse a hdmi switcher; I've found this one to be the best https://hdfury.com/product/8k-vrroom-40gbps/
    I'm not affiliated with Hdfury, it's just a convenient device to ensure that all my hdmi connections are getting full bandwidth support. Nvidia Shield Pro for lossless Plex, 4K apple TV for every streaming service except for Amazon Prime. Apple TV doesn't support HDR10+ and Amazon Prime is the only service that uses it.

    This upcoming generation of QD-Oled TV's:

    The A95k, A85k, LG G2 and LG C2 all will use the same QD-OLED panel made by Samsung.
    Sony A75K will use LG Display's WOLED panel instead and will be the "budget" option.

    Sony A95k, A85k, A75k
    LG C2 and G2

    TLDR:
    A95k is the best QD-OLED for 2022.
    A90k was best of last gen.
    If you need to see graphs and data watch HDTVTest on Youtube. He reviews on them and and provides the data to backup the %'s I quoted in my post.
    If you have one of these TV's make sure you make his setup guides for each of the TVs so you can configure the TV to be as close to accurate color reproduction as possible without hiring your own ISF calibrator.
     
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    But that's exactly what you are, aren't you? That's not to say HDTVTest isn't a credible source, but you are clearly inventing things in your own head.

    Where'd you read this? Somewhere on ASR ?

    I am pretty sure LG won't be using Samsung's panels. And by "pretty sure" I mean 100% sure. You are also crowning devices that are not even officially released for sale yet.

    The good news is, nobody here needs to visit wikipedia for knowing what shitposting is, they only need to read your message.
     
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    the LG C2 and G2 are using LG Display's newer WOLED panels that LG Electronics calls OLED Evo, which the G1 last year also used. the only QD-OLED tvs announced so far are the top of the line Sony you mentioned and the Samsung Electronics one. I think its safe to assume the Sony will be better as it has a heatsink on the back, which should lead to slightly higher brightness and less temporary image retention if they behave similarly to LG Displays WOLED panels.
     
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    I have a Sony A80J which I think has that feature. I have only heard it briefly and thought it was pretty good for a TV sound system. Unfortunately it cannot be used as a centre speaker without using some other proprietary Sony system, so I haven't done that. Some of the other Sony models feature regular speaker taps so you can use it as a true centre with any receiver, but not the A80J,
     

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