Audio Technica ATH-AD2000 Redux

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  1. PoochZag

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    Sort of? Where were you going with "presentation"? You piqued my interest, even though I'm not sure I agree. Just did a couple test tracks back and forth to see if I can find something.

    Elear is so full (and slow) down low, and AD2000 is a bit brighter sounding to me, with a bit more "bite" in the upper part of the mids. Staging width is closer than I would've assumed, with both midranges sounding about the same "distance" away, so maybe that?.

    But I still think with it's bass presence and generally laid back treble its much closer to HD650. The 2000 is weird as hell (in a goodish way) because of how mid-focused and bright yet non-fatiguing or uneven it is up top. Idk what I'd even compare it to honestly
     
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    I think you're pretty much on point in your description of the AD2000. :) I'll expand on what I mean vis a vis the Elear.

    As I recall, the AD2000 had a very mid-forward sound. Broad consensus on that. To my ears, the Elear is similarly forward with its midrange, albeit with an emphasis on the lower end of that spectrum. The AD2000 is more focused in the upper mids, where it is prone to some shoutiness.

    The AD2000 is certainly crispier in the highs than the Elear, but not dramatically so. More elevated in the lower treble, but not such a dramatic departure from the Elear's sound. The Elear has a bit of emphasis in its upper treble that it relies upon for definition in its presentation. In my experience, the AD2000 sounds more laid back in the top registers than its FR would necessarily suggest. Neither Elear nor AD2000 could be described as "analytical," for instance.

    Bass is the biggest difference between the AD2000 and the Elear, certainly. The comparison with 650 has the most merit here, I think. AD2000's sub bass is virtually nil, whereas the Elear extends nicely into that region. But the Elear's mid bass is elevated, which is also where the AD2000 offers the most meat in its lows. That's not to say that they sound the same in this area, only that there's a certain incidental similarity in their respective transitions into the midrange proper. The Elear's lows are better defined and impactful, overall.

    One aspect of the AD2000 that has kept it winning fans throughout the years is its relative speed. I remember that it was a lot of fun to listen to compressed recordings with, as the AD2000's lack of resolution wasn't such an issue and it lent a certain "propulsive" quality to energetic tracks. The Elear offers similarly brisk impulse response, which is quite unlike the 650. Fast attack and decay, little in the way of lingering ambience; a commonality shared with the AD2000.

    Apologies in advance for using wonky and/or confusing terminology. :oops: I'm pretty amateurish in my descriptions, so I'm often hesitant to offer them in detail. But the AD2000 is kind of a niche headphone, and I felt like it'd be interesting to draw a line between it and the (more popular) Elear. Especially since, having now put in some listening time with the Elear, I honestly don't think it sounds nearly so similar to the 650 as others have suggested.
     
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    Ah okay I see where your coming from, I agree with the majority of your description of both. I guess I just couldn't see past the (fairly substantial) differences in midbass quantity and speed to note the other similarities b/w Elear and AD2000. I also agree the Elear isn't that similar to stock HD650, but its an easy basic comparison to make because they are midbass heavy, laid back, opens with a narrow stage.

    This is a good point, I agree the 2000 is not analytical. I've always heard the AD2000 as "bright, but not peaky/fatiguing", but maybe they really aren't that bright, and more of an illusion because they're so fast, crisp, and the upper mids come in so hot.


    (I should listen to them more, other than gaming it's been a while, this post has been a fun excuse to plug em in tonight)
     
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    Old post but so true. My HD650 + AD2000 are the perfect complement imo. Both mid-forward, one kinda bright and the other much more laid-back. One for casual use and one for blissful late night music listening.

    If you come across these and have never heard them, I would say jump on them and give them a chance.
     

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