BLON BL-30 Review and Measurements

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  1. Marvey

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    @philmon thread, measurements, and DIY mods here: https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/blon-bl-30-110-70mm-driver-headphone.10357/

    The BLON BL-30's claim to fame is the big-ass 70mm driver. This piques my interest because there's no replacement for displacement when it comes to bass. Whether we are talking about woofers, car motors, or solder suckers. (Yeah, try a small solder sucker and see how useless they are compared to a big one). The problem of course is how will such a larger driver handle the highs? Usually here is a price to be paid, but how much? What compromises can we live with to get good bass.

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    Now before I get into the measurements or subjective impressions (which were quite good), I have to point out something hugely disappointing. The ergonomics and construction are first rate shit and what gives people the impression that China makes garbage. (This is not true). @tommytakis sent these to me in a box (thanks for the Korean treats - we just visited Houston and loaded up a cart at H-mart - however, kids and I pretty much devoured everything in a week) and by the time they arrived, one cup unscrewed itself from the gimble and the wire mesh cover fell off. It took me some effort and tin snips to put the wire mesh properly back on.

    Oh, and as far as ergonomics and fit: what the heck is this? Is this a new fashion statement from BLON?
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    Really, that's how it rests on my head. I even flattened and stretched out the top headband as far as I could. Who the designed this ergonomic fail? Maybe I'm doing something wrong. If I am, please let me know. It's a damn shame because the BL-30 sounds pretty good. Maybe one of you guys could lift the drivers and make a super Sony MDR-MA-900.
     
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    BLON BL-30
    Frequency Response
    Flat Plate Coupler (no pinna) Compensated
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    I think that 2k dip is there, but over exaggerated as a measurement artifact. Will confirm via CSDs. There a little local peak at 8.5kHz, but it doesn't seem that bad. Next let's take a look at the EARS measurement to get a different perspective. The EARS is narrower than my head, so was able to get an OK seal.

    BLON BL-30
    Frequency Response
    miniDSP EARS compensated (SBAF 3.2)
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    BLON BL-30 CSDs
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    A few observations:
    1. Clean! That black space from 2kHz onward from less than 1ms to 3ms. The decay is clean with no crap. This is often a good sign (high correlation but not determinate) of a highly scalable (sounds better with better gear) headphone. The tuning is different from the Sony MA-900, but I can say already the BL-30 has much more potentional.
    2. We can see the peak at 9kHz, but there's no ridge, no long lived ringing. This is good.
    3. A well formed ridge is at 12kHz. The good thing is that this past the area of annoyance (4-9kHz fro my personally). There a bit of ssss ssss, but just a bit.
    4. The deep dip at 2kHz as seen in the frequency response appears to largely bit a measurement artifact. I hear a small dip there, but hardly as deep as seen the in FR. On the CSDs above, that dip only exists at 0ms - occluded by the few slices over - that dip isn't anywhere as deep as the FR suggests.
     
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    Distortion below. Second order goes up with SPL as expected. Third order remains very low for the most part. However, there's a distortion bump just under 2kHz, approximately where the dip is located.

    BLON BL-30
    Harmonic Distortions vs Frequency at Various SPL
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    BLON BL-30
    Impedance
    (GRN = on head, YEL = free air)
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    The impedance bump goes away when the cup sits on the head! I checked this twice, once in real-time during the measurement just to make sure.

    As a consequence, what I'm thinking is that this may be a good candidate for open-baffle HP use. Let's try a measurement where I totally break the seal.

    BLON BL-30
    Frequency Response
    Broken Seal
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    Interesting, the bass doesn't die. Extension is still excellent to 50Hz and we only drop a four db at 20Hz. Someone should grab these drivers and make a better Mysphere.

    Anyway, good try BLON. I'm not going to bother doing any further subjective testing considering that these are more or less physically useable for me. Hopefully BLON addresses the ergonomic nightmare this thing is and comes back. I'd be super willing to give these another shot.
     
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    Goddamn at 70mm it makes me want to try 3" Fostex or Tang-Band drivers for headphones.
     
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    Audeze and HFM headbands fit apparently.

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    Old BL30 thread.
    ^ Sparse impressions because headband is beyond testing. The cups + yokes are entirely metal and heavy. Both headband and yoke are too small which prevents positive camber adjustment and proper fit. Once bended it barely gets proper seal/fit but is painful to wear.

    BLON later (after my ownership) came out with an updated headband but Ive not checked out. Linsoul (BLON retailer) customer service sucked so I gave BL30 away to trash can. Marv must have the original headband. Ill buy a set to see if updated headband is better and to mod.

    My HD580 comparison - its short sorry. FYI I do low volume listening.

    I did find one interesting mod @purr1n . Remove the vent plug from driver. Its easy, just be careful not to stab driver. Id be interested in seeing the measurements.:
    1. Remove grill.
    2. Remove small circle sticker in center of driver vent plug. This sticker covers a small hole.
    3. Use that hole to pry off driver plug with tool.
    4. Done
    (*see other thread for more detail)
     
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    Linked to your thread at top of your first post. I didn't even notice it - that was last December when things were crazy for me.
     
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    Not finding these in stock anywhere. They were on Amazon, Drop, and Linsoul.
     
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    Thankfully, (a derivative of) the driver is available on aliexpress:
    I think this explains why the Blon has such poor quality, the drivers take up all of the budget. $120 for a set is pretty hefty. Not sure why they put 128 Ohm in the listing but then only offer a 150 Ohm and 300 Ohm version. Cool drivers though. Massive free edge surround for extra low f0. These definitely would be ideal for an F1/ma900 type headphone.
    The 300 Ohm version with the black surround appears to perform a little better.
     
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    Wow. Thanks Lurker.

    I found that you can still buy some BL30 thru eBay. The descriptions say they have the updated headband. It appears to be just a longer band, but could be enough. Worth checking out considering cost of drivers alone!

    Edit: Nevermind. Sold out!
     
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    This reminds me that SBAF needs a diy headphone thread using off the shelf drivers such as these. Anyone want the honor to start the thread in the diy subforum? @E_Schaaf Ill do it if no one else willing.
     
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    The prices from the manufacturer are a bit better, I'm currently playing with a 300 ohm version which has a different surround material. They sell samples and even low quantities for some of their stuff, the manufacturing seems solid and the measured impedance is very tight on my sample pair, I'd guess they actually manufactured for Foster and got some "inspiration" out of those designs.
     
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    Yes, I've been looking on alibaba site as well for some neat drivers. These 70mm drivers I've seen with different surrounds and n52 magnets around $100 /pair. The BL30 is back on sale at massdrop for $89. Still can't recommend considering all the work. I'd rather try one of the drivers from alibaba or alixpress and use my own headphone enclosure.

    Those wool n52 Foster style drivers look interesting...

    Hey @spoony how are you using these drivers and what enclosures are you using? I had been using Philips SHP9600 enclosures for 50mm drivers but its not ideal. I was thinking of trying ATH AD500X next as its around the same price but has a nicer flat baffle and nicer pads with lots more aftermarket options for pads.
     
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    I'm designing my own, so far nothing interesting to share.
     
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    I've considered buying a cheap 3D printer to make baffles but don't think Id use often enough to justify the space, cost, and time to learn how to use well. Looks like it would be a small amount of fun though. Maybe I could try the CAD software and have a service print for me. Wonder if that'd be much cheaper. My other plan would be to just cut baffles out of wood using a power drill hole saw.
     

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