Camping gear

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  1. fraggler

    fraggler The Cable Guy - Friend

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    Ok, so we've got bags and poles covered for hiking. Time for some camping gear recommendations! I used to do a lot more when I was younger, but got away from it. I want to start doing some more and want to hear about the gear you guys use. I like lightweight gear for packing and carrying purposes, but I don't have the money or nervosa for ultralight. I used to carry around a 4 pound sleeping bag and a 9 pound tent in a 6 pound frame pack when thise actually were reasonable.

    So far, all I have is a Klymit insulated inflatable pad from Massdrop. Looking at 3 season tents and lightweight sleeping bags for shoulder season camping.
     
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    Have you though about a quilt? They can be a awesome option for saving weight, and might be more comfortable too. I’m a very warm side sleeper, so they are pretty much ideal of me.
     
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    Quilts are definitely something I should look at, as I am a dynamic sleeper who can feel claustrophobic in a sleeping bag. I dont think I can actually handle a mummy bag.
     
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    I’m the same with mummy bags. I can barely tolerate rectanglar bags.

    I have an Enlightened Equipment Revelation. I really like it, but I haven’t had it long enough to give a recommendation. I also considered a Katabatic quilt, but the EE was already more than I wanted to spend. They look awesome though. Might also want to check out UGQ.
     
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    So it might be time for me to get a new rain jacket (the one that I'm using was bought back in 2002).

    Have there been any significant advances in waterproof/breathable fabrics in the past decade, or has it mainly been a procession of new marketing names and buzzwords? There's a slew of in-house WPB fabrics now.

    The last time I paid attention to this stuff, eVent fabric was a new thing. I tried it- it seemed a bit more breathable than Gore-tex at the time, but jackets still needed pit zips for venting.
     
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    @mattie 's recommendation of Enlightened Equipment is solid. I've had one of their Revelation X quilts since 2012 (mine's the 10deg overstuffed version). It's my winter bivvying quilt & I've used it down to -10c with no issues. Excellent warmth to weight & pack size (though of course still packs waaay bigger than my PHD 3-season mummy bag).

    @JustAnotherRando , eVent breath-ability has historically been superior to Gore-Tex in my experience, but the more recent Gore-Tex Active Shell is pretty good and has served me well in some pretty nasty & remote conditions. Gore have at last cottoned onto the fact that waterproof zips suck (I have four jackets & gilets with broken waterproof zips) and they're now using regular zips with a storm flap on at least some of their jackets. On the budget side, I'm super impressed with the Alpkit Gravitas waterproof jacket...a very light, proper 3-layer jacket.
     
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    That Alpkit jacket looks very appealing- do you have one? If so, what's the fit like on it. Is it super skinny or 'normal'?

    My potential issue is fit, I used to be a typical skinny climber/cyclist and then dabbled powerlifting work at the gym and now nothing fits around the waist/hips (I had a bunch of Rab climbing clothing which stopped fitting). But that Alpkit stuff is only 10 pounds to post and they have an American-style return policy. And it's cheap enough that I can risk having a seamstress to retrofit pit zips into it without worrying about wrecking a four hundred quid jacket.

    The Alpkit is 170g. My existing jacket is a Paramo and weighs over 700g.
     
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    Yup, I've had the Gravitas for about 18 months, bought on the advice of a friend who reviewed it for a magazine & was impressed. It replaced a Gore Fusion (Active Shell) that was excellent but, yeah the zip failed after a few years.

    The Gravitas is pretty roomy, definitely not a race cut! Mine's a M and I'm 31" waist, 176cm tall but short femurs so I ride a bike with a L reach. There's loads of adjustment around the waist so I'd go with your usual size tbh. It's properly waterproof (tested many times!) and stupid light for a 3-layer jacket. It feels more like a softshell, so packs easily into a back pocket but isn't quite as effective as eVent & AS for keeping the wind off (still fine though). It breathes extremely well, better than AS I'd say...maybe even eVent, though I haven't used my eVent jacket for quite a while.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback @pedalhead.

    I'm 178cm and always wore S, but have recently ballooned from a 29" to a 33" waist. I went from super skinny all over, to super skinny up top and weirdly chunky at the bottom because of a really lopsided workout regime. I'm going to try Small and hope for the best.

    Really looking forwards to retrofitting pit zips- they are essential for this part of the world but these days it seems that pit zips are reserved for top of the line jackets.
     
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    Well you guys posting about gear coincided with the start of REI's anniversary sale and I ended up getting a new tent...
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    Was going to grab some cheap aluminum cookware from Amazon but showed my girlfriend some Snow Peak titanium sets and now she wants those. Budget about to get wrecked and I just started...
     
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    So I have the following which should be fine for glamping/car camping this summer and fall, but I am trying to think of stuff that I might need/want for more hiking oriented camping. Probably won't do anything too serious till 2020 when planning to camp around Japan.

    Tent - REI Half Dome Plus with matching footprint
    Sleeping bags - old/cheap stuff that is good enough for now
    Sleeping pads - Klymit Insulated Static V, 45 year old Thermarest from my father
    Stove - MSR Whisperlite International
    Cookware - super duper cheapo aluminum set from China
    Nalgene water bottles

    Do you guys carry stuff like a kettle for coffee/tea or furniture like foldable table and chairs? I have found some intriguing stuff that weighs only a couple pounds a piece, but added up adds some weight. What kinds of luxury items do you guys go for, or when hiking is it mostly about weight savings?
     

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