Camping gear

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  1. fraggler

    fraggler A Happy & Busy Life

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    Ok, so we've got bags and poles covered for hiking. Time for some camping gear recommendations! I used to do a lot more when I was younger, but got away from it. I want to start doing some more and want to hear about the gear you guys use. I like lightweight gear for packing and carrying purposes, but I don't have the money or nervosa for ultralight. I used to carry around a 4 pound sleeping bag and a 9 pound tent in a 6 pound frame pack when thise actually were reasonable.

    So far, all I have is a Klymit insulated inflatable pad from Massdrop. Looking at 3 season tents and lightweight sleeping bags for shoulder season camping.
     
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    Have you though about a quilt? They can be a awesome option for saving weight, and might be more comfortable too. I’m a very warm side sleeper, so they are pretty much ideal of me.
     
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    Quilts are definitely something I should look at, as I am a dynamic sleeper who can feel claustrophobic in a sleeping bag. I dont think I can actually handle a mummy bag.
     
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    I’m the same with mummy bags. I can barely tolerate rectanglar bags.

    I have an Enlightened Equipment Revelation. I really like it, but I haven’t had it long enough to give a recommendation. I also considered a Katabatic quilt, but the EE was already more than I wanted to spend. They look awesome though. Might also want to check out UGQ.
     
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    So it might be time for me to get a new rain jacket (the one that I'm using was bought back in 2002).

    Have there been any significant advances in waterproof/breathable fabrics in the past decade, or has it mainly been a procession of new marketing names and buzzwords? There's a slew of in-house WPB fabrics now.

    The last time I paid attention to this stuff, eVent fabric was a new thing. I tried it- it seemed a bit more breathable than Gore-tex at the time, but jackets still needed pit zips for venting.
     
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    @mattie 's recommendation of Enlightened Equipment is solid. I've had one of their Revelation X quilts since 2012 (mine's the 10deg overstuffed version). It's my winter bivvying quilt & I've used it down to -10c with no issues. Excellent warmth to weight & pack size (though of course still packs waaay bigger than my PHD 3-season mummy bag).

    @JustAnotherRando , eVent breath-ability has historically been superior to Gore-Tex in my experience, but the more recent Gore-Tex Active Shell is pretty good and has served me well in some pretty nasty & remote conditions. Gore have at last cottoned onto the fact that waterproof zips suck (I have four jackets & gilets with broken waterproof zips) and they're now using regular zips with a storm flap on at least some of their jackets. On the budget side, I'm super impressed with the Alpkit Gravitas waterproof jacket...a very light, proper 3-layer jacket.
     
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    That Alpkit jacket looks very appealing- do you have one? If so, what's the fit like on it. Is it super skinny or 'normal'?

    My potential issue is fit, I used to be a typical skinny climber/cyclist and then dabbled powerlifting work at the gym and now nothing fits around the waist/hips (I had a bunch of Rab climbing clothing which stopped fitting). But that Alpkit stuff is only 10 pounds to post and they have an American-style return policy. And it's cheap enough that I can risk having a seamstress to retrofit pit zips into it without worrying about wrecking a four hundred quid jacket.

    The Alpkit is 170g. My existing jacket is a Paramo and weighs over 700g.
     
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    Yup, I've had the Gravitas for about 18 months, bought on the advice of a friend who reviewed it for a magazine & was impressed. It replaced a Gore Fusion (Active Shell) that was excellent but, yeah the zip failed after a few years.

    The Gravitas is pretty roomy, definitely not a race cut! Mine's a M and I'm 31" waist, 176cm tall but short femurs so I ride a bike with a L reach. There's loads of adjustment around the waist so I'd go with your usual size tbh. It's properly waterproof (tested many times!) and stupid light for a 3-layer jacket. It feels more like a softshell, so packs easily into a back pocket but isn't quite as effective as eVent & AS for keeping the wind off (still fine though). It breathes extremely well, better than AS I'd say...maybe even eVent, though I haven't used my eVent jacket for quite a while.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback @pedalhead.

    I'm 178cm and always wore S, but have recently ballooned from a 29" to a 33" waist. I went from super skinny all over, to super skinny up top and weirdly chunky at the bottom because of a really lopsided workout regime. I'm going to try Small and hope for the best.

    Really looking forwards to retrofitting pit zips- they are essential for this part of the world but these days it seems that pit zips are reserved for top of the line jackets.
     
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    Well you guys posting about gear coincided with the start of REI's anniversary sale and I ended up getting a new tent...
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    Was going to grab some cheap aluminum cookware from Amazon but showed my girlfriend some Snow Peak titanium sets and now she wants those. Budget about to get wrecked and I just started...
     
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    So I have the following which should be fine for glamping/car camping this summer and fall, but I am trying to think of stuff that I might need/want for more hiking oriented camping. Probably won't do anything too serious till 2020 when planning to camp around Japan.

    Tent - REI Half Dome Plus with matching footprint
    Sleeping bags - old/cheap stuff that is good enough for now
    Sleeping pads - Klymit Insulated Static V, 45 year old Thermarest from my father
    Stove - MSR Whisperlite International
    Cookware - super duper cheapo aluminum set from China
    Nalgene water bottles

    Do you guys carry stuff like a kettle for coffee/tea or furniture like foldable table and chairs? I have found some intriguing stuff that weighs only a couple pounds a piece, but added up adds some weight. What kinds of luxury items do you guys go for, or when hiking is it mostly about weight savings?
     
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    @pedalhead thanks for the Alpkit jacket recommendation. After a bit of trial and error, I found one that fit (one size up, but in the womens' cut!) so I'm now a happy camper. The new jacket is 22% of the weight of the old jacket.

    In other news, I impulse bought a climbing rope during a trip to the US and the mandatory REI visit- $100 for a 60m Mammut. So now I have plans to take up the sport again.

    It was interesting to see the big changes in jacket technology, versus what appears to be zero changes in climbing equipment technology over the past decade.
     
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    Excellent, glad to hear the Alpkit jacket worked out in the end. It's pretty amazing how lightweight and packable a fully waterproof, 3 layer jacket is these days.

    Hopefully, the lack of "progress" in the climbing gear world means they got it right the first time :) .
     
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