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Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by Judeus, Oct 12, 2015.

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  1. hellwhynot

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    QUOTE:
    Output impedance 75m Ohms
    ...wut?


    Heh... that's what I thought. But it looks like it's actually quite low if their specs are to be believed:
    • [​IMG]Output Impedance: 0.075 ohms
    http://www.chordelectronics.co.uk/mojo/
     
    hellwhynot, Oct 15, 2015
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    Interesting that you point out that instead of following "the herd" you make an exception to defend the QuteHD. Yet you go on to lump all the Chinese Sabre dacs as crap, and defend the Audio GD.

    I can understand that if indeed you have heard ALL the Chinese Sabre dacs and have the opinion that they suck, then you are certainly free to express that. I do find it ironic that you make exceptions to the aforementioned, yet lump all Chinese Sabres in the same bucket.
     
    bixby, Oct 16, 2015
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  3. velvetx

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    Yes, Chord is the one that everyone seems to love to hate on. Honestly, I admit I thought the Chord Hugo was impressive however, I believe that their pricing was way out of line. I think this is because they felt that people who buy their stereo equipment are the same people who would buy their DAC/AMPs (trust me you think they are overpriced now go into a shop that sells Chord stereo stuff and prepare to be blown away). Not only that their marketing seems to think that they created this product that is so unlike anything other people are currently doing (almost kind of saying they invented the portable headphone amp/dac).

    Just a few things of note about Chord is that they do make their own chips (custom design). The way it was explained to me is the Hugo is meant to completely bypass your DAP source and the Hugo does most of the work (thus the reason for the Hugo being so different). The other thing is this technology that they have inside the Chord Hugo products and I assume all their other things in the portable audiophile line comes as a trickle down technology from the way overpriced stereo equipment.

    I don't think that Chord understands the common audiophile or even what other portable audiophile products are out there. They just released a product and said here I am worship me (trust me if HF is any indicator many people did). I don't think that people necessarily completely hate this product on SBAF it's just way overpriced for what it does.

    Maybe completely off based here and feel free to flame away.
     
    velvetx, Oct 16, 2015
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  4. purr1n

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    The Hugo was not bad sounding, but notably not as good as other good sounding DACs such as the Lavry DA10, Schiit Gungnir DS, or X-Sabre. Let's hope the Mojo sounds better than the $79 Fulla.
     
    purr1n, Oct 16, 2015
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  5. HitmanFluffy

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    Damning praise right there. I could go down to my dealer and try it out, but I can't say the one-hour trip interests me very much when I could stay home with my Yggdrasil.
     
    HitmanFluffy, Oct 16, 2015
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    I don't think the herd even considered the QuteHD in the first place. It's really a "anti-Hugo" movement, which later translated into a Chord flaming on a larger scale.
    I'll say it again, my QuteHD was a greatly enjoyable DAC. I didn't adhere to the Hugo shift in sound presentation (leaner, hyper-detailed) and thought it was overpriced. Neither did I like Chord's massive marketing campain that consists in denigrating every DAC manufacturer that doesn't play the mega-taps game and ignore the importance of timing accuracy (they sound like they're the only one in the market that nailed the timing issue). That doesn't mean all their products are bad.

    Now, if the Mojo indeed compares to the Hugo - while bringing the mids back in the picture - for $600, we might well have the value proposition that was missing with Hugo.

    I'm not saying all the Chinese made SABRE DAC are crap. That's why I mentioned Audio-gd as a Chinese manufacturer that isn't in the "pack". But to be fair, most of the ones I tried, are. That's the Yulong effect, I guess...
     
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    I kind of sort of like the design. It's weird but I would like to give it a whirl.
     
    keanex, Oct 17, 2015
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    People on HF who have the Mojo claim it sounds like the Hugo - for good or bad. $599 isn't a bad price for a good DAC/Amp portable. I don't like the Chord styling, but Mojo is their most understated design so far. The amp seems a bit anemic. 8 ohm = 720 mW, 600 ohm = 35 mW. By my estimate, 50 ohm is between 100 - 130 mW.
     
    Xen, Oct 17, 2015
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    If the amp is really that lacking, its even harder to justify it as a competitive option vs the Geek Out V2+, which matches it on features for the most part.
     
    HitmanFluffy, Oct 17, 2015
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    Looking to connect my soon-to-arrive Mojo to my Fiio X3 using the coax digital output on the X3 to the coax input on the Mojo. Anyone have any thoughts on the importance of have a "real" 75 Ohm coax cable for this connection versus just a standard mono/2-pin 3.5mm cable? Am thinking the shielding of a real RG179 mini coax cable would be important in helping to limit interference. Cheers
     
    mscott58, Oct 18, 2015
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  11. zerodeefex

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    I work about 5-10 mins from audio high. Might try to convince @CEE TEE to come with me next month to do a side by side comparison. Unsure if there's time until then to do so.

    Edit: I have no skin in this game. Had the peach, thought it was meh. Had the quteHD, thought it was decent with a linear power supply until I tried the DAC2 and eventually the DS Gungnir and the X-Sabre.

    The Hugo and HugoTT are bonkers tho. Crazy pricing for what you're getting.
     
    zerodeefex, Oct 18, 2015
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    It's here and it's exactly what the Hugo should have been (price-wise) |\/|

    [​IMG]
     
    Clemmaster, Nov 24, 2015
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  13. shotgunshane

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    I have one too. I like it. It's a little lean in bass but otherwise pleasant and smooth while retaining very good resolution. The design looks good in person too.

    I'll leave it to others to verify if pubes get eaten or not.
     
    shotgunshane, Nov 24, 2015
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    It's detail oriented - like the Hugo - but with darker* highs and a bit more fleshed out midrange.
    I can still hear some upper mid shout, though.


    (*) relative to Hugo, it is not dark per se.
     
    Clemmaster, Nov 24, 2015
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    Yeah it's not dark', but it's not 'airy' either.
     
    shotgunshane, Nov 24, 2015
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    Set it to line out and plug it in to the liquid carbon when you get the chance. Curious about how the combination sounds!
     
    AustinValentine, Nov 25, 2015
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    I'm considering one to go with my "I jumped on the bandwagon with everyone else" Cavalli Liquid Carbon (see my introduction post for my fanboy tendencies....). The Mojo has a nice form factor, and it comes in black. ("what kind of Dac do you want?" "A black one..."). I'm looking forward to an opportunity to hear one. I've heard the Hugo a couple of times. I thought it sounded decent. $500 or $600 decent though, not $2500 decent. Oh, and @Clemmaster, I too am becoming an audio-gd guy. Have a Dac-19, which I really like, on the fence getting an amp from them.
     
    aamefford, Nov 26, 2015
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    I use my Mojo Jojo when travelling e.g. inside the train, but when at home, DAC-19 takes the reign. It sounds much better for me. I think DAC-19 will pair better with the LC too.
     
    lukeap69, Nov 26, 2015
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  19. joeexp

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    Yeah - Again Chord didn't listen to their customers! The Muucho is too FAT!!! [22mm - almost an inch ]
    And who needs coloured buttons for something thats in your pocket and you will never see anyway.

    Why didn't they include a Memory Card slot, so that you don't need a DAP all the time.
    Too many chances missed ...
    Too many thingies to carry around….
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2015
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  20. shotgunshane

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    They'll have an attachment soon that will play music from a sd card supposedly.

    The Mojo isn't fat at all. It's smaller in thickness, width and length than the overwhelming majority of portable amps and dacs available. Seriously, its a great size.

    The backlit buttons let you know what volume level you are at and the rate of the music file. Not sure about you but I see the buttons every time I use it, which is usually sitting out next to me in my commute, office environment, hotel, bedroom, etc. It's a beautiful device that begs to be photographed, imo.
     
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