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  1. richard51

    richard51 Mr. Sorbothane

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    I hesitate to call that singing... Pulsations from the heart is more accurate... She is beyond right or wrong...

     
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    Hooked on Bach organ sonata BWV 528 andante piano transcription so much I am trying to play it on my piano. Vikingur Olafsson's rendition on his Bach CD is a touch romantic but mesmerising none the less...



    Today I needed something fresh and nontonal and Schoenberg fit the bill with his wind quintet...

     
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    I hesitate and decide not to call what this link pointed to piano playing or interpretation only...

    Piano interpretation is a relative perspective on some score, more or less with the infused spirit of the composer...Piano interpretation can be teach, it is more or less right or wrong like all that can be learned in a relative way...Piano interpretation is relative like all interpretation... And it suit a taste...

    But this piece of piano, if you listen to, communicate so much energy, so much moving spirit, that it is no more piano lesson well done... if it is something, it can be repulsive for some who are not prepared and too refined to be transformed, it is not perfect, It is not even right, nor wrong, it is beyond which anybody can decide, or choose to play... It is literaly a case of possession, like in demonic possession, an hypnotic attempt, or agression, a transcendental moment, that you can listen to thousand times, and after each listening, the emotion is never trivialized in the background of past experiences...At the end you can verify with comparison with any other playing, they can be more "perfect", more mathematically accurate, more respectful of the score or of the composer intent, or so it may seems at first, but they will never be and are not a volcanic eruption in the heart, nor a tectonic displacement of some waves in the brain...I dont thing that this player is a pianist among others...This is a magician...A dangerous one perhaps like Liszt was, or Scriabin was... One thing is sure, it is the revelation that it is impossible to learn piano, or possible only to a certain extent, like it is impossible to learn numbers the way Ramanujan did ( the great G.H. Hardy think that about Ramanujan praising him greater than even Hilbert, and for example Grothendieck in contemporary mathematics is in the same category)...In the same way one does not decide to learn to become Buddha or Christ, excepted deluded ones...Or nobody decide to save humanity, like Scriabin think he will do with music... If you compare for example Stravinsky, a pure productive perfect genius, with Scriabin this imperfect god, you will discover the same abyss separating mortals, even great, of immortals even small one... :)
    Men plays, gods create...

     
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    Reinbert de Leeuw passed away. My introduction into Satie.



    Rest in peace you quirky Dutch man who could not stop sharing the beauty of music.
     
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    Der Fliegende Holländer at the Met Opera last night; Anja Kampe as Senta was impressive, and Sergey Shorokhodov an excellent Erik.

     
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    Others, including the Berlin Philharmonic, are likewise offering online treats:

    "As home entertainment becomes inevitably more central to our lives, the quest will surely be to capture the spirit of the authentic live experience. First and boldest into the arena has been the Berlin Philharmonic (“The Philharmonie is closed – so we will come to you!”), removing all charges from its online streaming service. Go to digitalconcerthall.com and enter the code BERLINPHIL by 31 March. Here you will find, among concerts from Karajan to Abbado, a recent concert under Simon Rattle that was streamed live without an audience. Berio’s phantasmagorical Sinfonia is juxtaposed with a sumptuously sonorous Bartók Concerto for Orchestra. Elsewhere on the site there’s the latest from new chief conductor Kirill Petrenko, pushing into the music of the 1940s with Stravinsky’s Symphony for Three Orchestras, Zimmermann and Rachmaninov." [source]​
     
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    FYI, Listening to Daniel Hope's first night of 14 nights performed in his living room. The stream sounds pretty nice at least on my desktop set. I thought I would pass this and the World Piano Day live stream info along

    [email protected] - Daniel Hope launches daily livestream on DG YouTube and Arte Concert
    This week Daniel Hope began a series of 14 daily concerts live from his living room called [email protected] In these troubled times Hope invites artists and friends to his home in Berlin to join him for spontaneous mini-concerts (of course one after the other and keeping the required safety distance). "We need to and must stay home at this time”, says Hope. “But we also need to share music as a source of comfort and inspiration."

    [email protected] concerts will be live streamed daily on Deutsche Grammophon’s YouTube channel (and available for 72 hours), ARTE Concert, the ARTE Concert Facebook page and the ARTE Concert YouTube channel. Daniel Hope will recreate the magic of La Belle Époque at home, with confirmed guests so far including Max Raabe, Christoph Israel, Katharina Thalbach, Sebastian Koch, Heike Makatsch.


    World Piano Day


    An astonishing line-up of pianists from our artist roster agreed to participate in what has become a virtual piano music festival via livestream. Tomorrow at 3PM CET our DG family of pianists including Joep Beving, Rudolf Buchbinder, Seong-Jin Cho, Simon Ghraichy, Maria João Pires, Evgeny Kissin, Jan Lisiecki, Víkingur Ólafsson and Daniil Trifonov, who have all recorded a short performance program from their homes for this livestream, will join the celebration of music’s power to bring people together. Dr Clemens Trautmann, President Deutsche Grammophon, comments: “Technology allows us to turn this year’s World Piano Day into an online space where masterful pianists can share positive and uplifting messages through music, performing on their own pianos and reaching people in their homes. We are deeply grateful to all those musicians who have agreed to take part and invite everyone to join the virtual festival audience.”


    The livestream will take place on DG’s YouTube and Facebook channels using the hashtags #StayAtHome and #WorldPianoDay.
     
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    Finishing up some work in home office, streaming classical music in the background. I suddenly realized I've heard this music dozens of times before, but it never sounded so beautiful as right now. I also realized I've heard this music in films multiple times.

    It's Tchaikovsky as his emotive best, in the String Quartet No. 1's andante cantabile:

     
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    I need some recommendations for a Bach Brandenburg Concertos, on vinyl. I own a couple on CD but neither is available on LP. I prefer smaller chamber orchestra performances of this to larger orchestras. Historically informed performances can be appealing. The fidelity of the album / recording is very important to me as well. I'm somewhat interested in a pure analog recording from before the digital era, but I'm also ok with a digital recording. Any thoughts would be awesome.
     
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    I don't know if those will be available in LP format, but I think it's a good place to start looking. Personally, I'd be inclined to try Leonhardt first.
    https://www.talkclassical.com/blogs/trout/2065-rr-64-bach-brandenburg.html
    In general, I often start with Trout's recommendations for the most famous classical compositions:
    https://www.talkclassical.com/blogs/trout/1624-recommended-recordings-intro.html
     
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    Thanks for that source! I own the first item in the list, the Trevor Pinnock English concert version, on CD. I think I can get the Britton version from that list on vinyl, so I'm going to give that a go.
     
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    The Netherlands Bach Society made some lovely new recordings of the Brandenburgs (as well as a whole lot of other things for the All of Bach project), (almost?) all on period instruments, but they are only available on YouTube and Vimeo. I hope for a more thorough release one day, perhaps including vinyl.
     
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    I like Freiburger Barockorchester's performance of the Brandenburgs, especially No. 6 in B-flat Major:

     
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    Trout's recommendations are always worth looking into. Pinnock was my first experience and his Brandenburgs and Orchestral suites are lively, balanced and well recorded.

    Lately I prefer Jordi Savall's rendition with its more organic and deeper sound. Suzuki is a brighter and clearer recording but lacks the grunt and heft of the Savall recording.

     
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    The first time I heard Gyorgy Ligeti's music was his "Requiem" on the soundtrack to 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY. That movie was a mindfuck in many ways, not least that awesome soundtrack, veering between rapturous Strauss waltzes & jagged, penetrating choral music by Ligeti. I loved his music starting that day & have a lot of it now.

    Every other week or so I listen to his shorter, brilliant choral piece, "Lux Aeterna." The visual content in the youtube link perfectly matches the music:

     
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    Issued on the Harmonia Mundi label: https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8124852--ligeti-lux-aeterna, I own the digital download format (44.1/24).

    When I used to teach undergraduates, I played different music tracks just before class as they were walking in. This was my near-Halloween choice every year:

     
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    Yes, when you need a break from "Dance Macabre" & "The Sorcerer's Apprentice," Ligeti will do nicely--he does "spooky" better than most.

    I tend to listen right through the "menacing music" thing; IMO it's an inevitable (and frankly, welcome) result of messing around w/meter & tonality. I hear it especially in his choral music: with all those voices/parts, he can write in many shades of dissonance.

    And if there's one thing I've learned along the way, it's that dissonance is my friend...

    PS: Another master of menacing music is also Hungarian--Bela Bartok (love his music!). I suspect that's not a coincidence.
     
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