Classical snobs

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  1. knerian

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    I said "at times" in reference to the Rachmaninov clip, prease read the Engrish carefurry.
     
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    Fascinating. Eno's classic minimalist work "Discreet Music," which was originally performed on synthesizer, reimagined for strings, winds, piano, and vibes.

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    Excellent, this is a recording to die for.

     
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    It nails the performance, tempo, spirit and inner essence of the quartets.
     
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    Maybe 11-12 years ago when I was in Rome, he hammered the piano for an hour and a half, our jaws dropped to the ground. Fantastic pianist (though my fav among those still with us is Pollini)
     
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    My go to fifth is the one on DGG with Carlos Kleiber. Pure heavy metal.. his father's take is also very good.
     
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    I'm a HIPP-ie (historically informed performance practice), so I always recommend the Manchester Camerata Beethoven symphony cycle.

    I also like the Minnesota Orchestra cycle.

    I am soooooo over big, bombastic Beethoven. Yes, Herr von Karajan, that's your grave I'm pissing on.
     
  9. Claritas

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    I don't listen to the 5th often, but my favorite is Toscanini's from 1939. I somewhat prefer Kleiber's 7th to Toscanini's from 1936. I'll have to listen to some of the more recent ones mentioned.

    Beethoven's sonatas and concerti interest me more. Two long-time favorites:

    Schnabel's 4th Piano Concerto (later version, 1942)

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    Hofmann's Waldstein (live 1938)

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    If you can't find the Hofmann, Horowitz did an acceptable impersonation for RCA in 1956.

     
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    Could folks recommend some well-recorded and well-played Tchaikovsky? Looking for the symphonies, etc. Preferably in CD form.

    I have Ormandy's Tchaikovsky cycle and it's veiled.
     
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    I tend not to prefer sets and I should mention that I prefer earlier composers.

    No. 1 Tilson Thomas, Boston
    No. 2 Abbado, Chicago
    No. 5 Abbado, Chicago (somewhat more extreme tempi, but not excessive and it works)
    Piano Concerti: Gilels with Maazel, New Philharmonia
     
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    Back in 2003, I got really into the Kreisleriana and bought a dozen. Cortot's is still unbeatable. Amongst modern accounts, I like Perahia and Kissin the most.

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    I was a youngun too! This piece totally got me into large orchestral programmatic Romantic cheeseball music, after this piece I got into other stuff like programmatic ballets like Stravinsky's and Ravel's, which I still love. All of that sort of music were the pre-cursors to the big orchestral movie soundtracks from earlier in the 20th century to now, the style, the orchestration, everything.


     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I'll have to listen to this later, looks good though. Similarly I've been listening to this piece again recently and love it, maybe same vein? Maybe a bit more listenable though, and it's got some really cool intense headbanger moments:

     
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    Do people really like this? Is this a pleasant listen? I went to a Yo-Yo Ma concert (very expensive and indulgent for me), and he f***ing trolled me by playing something similar, though a bit worse, than this. Half the audience started laughing at the beginning because they thought he was f***ing around. He was serious, and it was 15 minutes of WTF for a $150 ticket. I was actually kind of pissed since he is one of my favorite performers and I hadn't realized he wasn't going to play something a bit more listenable. My mistake for not checking the program first.

    I self-identify as a Classical lover, but don't usually discuss it because inevitably, I will get the whole Mozart is overrated argument (I think he is sublime), and that I am not a real classical lover because I think overly sparse or overly complicated, non-melodic stuff that is "real and deep" sounds like ass. Real music shouldn't be a challenge to listen to.

    I grew up playing the piano, so Mozart, Haydn, Liszt, Chopin, Beethoven, Rachmaninoff, and Bach are my go-to's when I listen.

    BTW, where do orchestral versions of video game music go? I have been listening to orchestral Zelda all day today.
     
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    Can anyone recommend a good recording (both performance and actual recording) for Mozart's Requiem?
     
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    We used to have a Requiem thread. I tried some of the recommendations, but still prefer the one I mentioned. It's kinda dated sonically, but the vocals more than hold up. I didn't enjoy the Hogwood that Marv likes most (aggressive performance, somewhat bright). Disclaimer: the Requiem isn't one of my favorite Mozart works. For your criteria, you'll probably prefer another so look over Luis's old list and try to sample them on youtube.

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