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Discussion in 'Cars, Motorcycles, Boats, Airplanes Talk' started by Maxvla, Sep 26, 2015.

  1. Gruss Gott

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    I went dual clutch some years ago, after 20 years of manuals, and haven't looked back ... although there are trade-offs.

    I have no issue driving an MT in traffic (and always drive my DCT manually) so that wasn't a consideration, but MTs are much more fun for me at 30mph and below ... but when you start to drive timed you get to the differences: in a dual clutch you're just a better driver - which means a faster driver - not because of the speed of the shift, but because you don't have to clutch (which is why there are no pro drivers with an MT racer). Daily driving, or even a lot track driving, doesn't get to where this matters ... but road course driving gets you there in the first 20 seconds. So if you do a lot of that (including canyon runs) then a dual clutch is a huge advantage.

    Further, in the E9x and F8x - especially the 2015 F8x pre-software updates - the dual clutch donkey kick is unreal; if you haven't done it, when you do you'll swear you just trashed the drive train on upshifts. "donkey kick" is not hyperbole. And on the F8x, after YOU get a donkey kick, the car gets kicked even if you're doing 80+! In the E9x the acceleration post-kick is linear, but in the F8x you get a 1/2 second burst of acceleration above any acceleration you're already doing. People on the freeway can see the car leap at 80mph+ when you shift from 3rd to 4th - it's pretty crazy and no sensation like it.

    So that's why I still have DCT - I do a lot of canyon runs and DCT is just plain faster no matter your driving skill, and whenever I go back to MT I have fun for the first 20 minutes, but then I miss the DCT insanity.
     
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    VW seems to have built a scalextric car size 1:1. That thing moves.

     
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    Any Porsche guys here?
     
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    I love 'em, just haven't been able to cross the value barrier ... that said, for various reasons I only lease new, plus I love the euro delivery program, so with that BMW is the best game going.
     

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