General Speaker Advice and Recommendations

Discussion in 'Speakers' started by shotgunshane, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. Riotvan

    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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    My experience with spikes is that they are a great way to piss off your neighbours, decoupling all the way ime.
     
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  2. Hrodulf

    Hrodulf MOT - Sonarworks

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    Spikes are nice if you have a rug you don't want to ruin. As for de-coupling, I don't see why should you want it, the speaker should remain stationary whilst pushing on the air load. I know that some argue that desktop speakers should be de-coupled to not introduce rattling, but that's a question whether your desk is crap or not.
     
  3. zerodeefex

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    You can listen at about 85/86dB @ 1m, so about 80dB with 15dB of headroom for transient peaks on stuff with tons of DR. That's enough for an enjoyable listen if you can only afford one.

    Of course two is better and gives you more headroom.
     
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    I have been pretty surprised how much the feet does underneath a speaker. Spikes work well for carpet, but I prefer decoupling. Rubberfeet ala Genelec seems to work the best for my speakers too decouple them from the shelves. I also tried those acoustics foam pads underneath the speakers, but that seems to rob them of some bass impact. Some of those pad they sell to damped car doors (STP products) also seems to work well at decoupling.
     
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  5. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    Couple via spikes directly to surfaces on top of a concrete slab (first floor). In all other situations, decouple with rubber feet or wood plank.
     
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    So first floor with carpet - spikes are the way to go? I've read a lot of posts shitting all over spikes for the most part, and I've been meaning to test it out for myself, but I am not convinced decoupling is a good idea on carpet. The Dynaudios came with 2 sets of spikes, long skinny ones and shorter thicker ones. I tried both but I'm not sure it really made any difference.
     
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    always decouple.

    purrin "coupling" with spikes onto slabs of concrete is effectively decoupling

    spikes on carpet would be coupling= not what id do. coupling a speaker that vibrates unto another thing that can transfer energie (floor) creates, by some law I forgot the name, more vibrations.
     
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  8. elmoe

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    Thanks, I'll look into cheap options. Some of the decoupling options out there are ridiculously priced.
     
  9. Priidik

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    I like that. I'll put wheels under the slab, muaahaa!
     
  10. msommers

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    I'm so confused. I thought the rule was to use spikes only if you have carpet. Now I don't know what to do.

    My speakers are on the basement carpet, and below that is the concrete foundation.
     
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    When I was using NHT 3.3's each speaker came with four long spikes that were sharp enough to go right through the carpet and pad to the concrete, but those weighed 125 lbs each. If your speakers aren't that heavy maybe just use a nail to pierce the carpet and pad to the concrete to make sure the spikes make contact?
     
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    What options are you looking at? There are some reasonably priced decoupling options from this site:

    https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collections/loudspeaker-rack-decoupling-and-isolation

    Yep you should be fine.
     
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    fraggler A Happy & Busy Life

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    I don't know how these would compare to more audiophile solutions, but a few of these under my NAS completely killed the vibrations transferring to my desk from the spinning harddrives.

    https://www.supplyhouse.com/DiversiTech-MP-2E-EVA-Anti-Vibration-Pad-2-x-2-x-7-8

    I plan to use them under my sub and possibly my speaker stands depending on what they come with (just ordered some Pangea stands off of Amazon).
     
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    Thanks that's very helpful! I was looking at vibrapods + cones, but that's over $150 for everything for 2 speakers.

    I have the same type setup as @msommers, carpet on top of a concrete base, but I doubt the spikes are touching the concrete at all. Maybe I should try and Pierce through the carpet/mat as mentioned above before spending $ on decoupling.
     
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    Those should work very well.
     
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    The spikes are removable but I don't think they're long enough to be physically through the carpet and "resting" on the concrete flooring below, despite their 75+ lbs. The carpet is fairly thick as the basement gets cold, plus the underlay.

    Perhaps something like these would be better to rest on the carpet?
    https://herbiesaudiolab.com/products/cone-spike-decoupling-glider?variant=12645103403063
    https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collect...g-and-isolation/products/threaded-stud-glider
    https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collect...ling-and-isolation/products/little-fat-glider

    EDIT: These might be a cheaper option that is more readily returnable if it doesn't work (for Canucks anyways):
    https://www.amazon.ca/SVS-SoundPath...ocphy=9001318&hvtargid=pla-307041973422&psc=1
     
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    sorbothane is the best cheapest material to effectively decouple the speakers down to 30hz

    use the right loading on the sorbothane hemisphere. it will cost you 50$ and be ten time more effective then those concrete base or vibrapods
    those are garbage.
     
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    Even on carpet? Just sitting on top of the carpet, and speakers on top of a sorbothane base, or would it be better to have a wood base + sorbothane in this case? Or does it not matter at all to have a wood base?
     
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    Someone has had too much to think. :piratemug:

    K.I.S.S.

    I'm with Murphy on this one.
     
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    Wouldn't a sorbothane hemisphere be much more unstable than spikes in tandem with something like the Herbies bases? Especially for heavy floorstanding speakers?
     

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