Health Advices and Longevity

Discussion in 'Health' started by David De Lucena, Apr 28, 2018.

  1. Jinxy245

    Jinxy245 Vegan Puss

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    I really don't want this to degrade into a suck Marv off-fest, but holy fuck that CT is scary. I'm really glad you're on the mend.
     
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    Nevermind all the scary health effects... but how do people even eat the stuff? They all have this sickly soapy taste to me.
     
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    FallingObjects Pay It Forward

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    There's a small sub-set of the general population that are particularly sensitive to the taste, so you could fall into that?

    The after-taste is what bugs me. Can always tell when something is sweetened with Aspartame or Sucralose because if it's aspartame I'll be tasting it for the next half hour.

    Barring complete abstinence from sodas, I wonder what would have more long-term health impacts on people in the long run: Diet, or Non-diet soda? After all, refined sugar is pretty bad for you in its own right. I can imagine more than a few people seeing these findings in a clickbaity news headline and thinking "Aw hell, may as well go back to a can per day of the regular stuff."
     
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    Ardacer needs to read more, post less

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    That's one very nasty looking lobar pneumonia. The rest looks fine, and there's no visible cavitations, necrosis or bronchiectasia. Good!
    I'll drop by pulmonology today and let them see the scans too.
     
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  5. Riotvan

    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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    I got used to drinking only water from a reusable bottle. You can buy some nice ones with filters and stuff. Other then that i drink tea without sugar, i just make the tea stronger. Used to put sugar in it and i built it down slowly.
    Don't drink coffee but there are ways to improve the taste like bulletproof coffee which is actually nutritious if you're keto or fat adapted.
     
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    Oh I probably have pop maybe once or twice per month, I'm just concerned/curious as to the fallout in the wider population this might have.

    And bulletproof coffee is amazeballs, keto diet or otherwise.

    Well, people still smoke after all the things science has told them about it, so maybe not as much as I first imagined.
     
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    Of course not drinking soda at all is probably the best choice but if there's a choice between diet and non-diet soda I'm personally going for the diet one. Aspartam and stelvia has been showed in multiple independent studies to be harmless in the normal doses consumed. The following organization consider aspartame a safe sugar substitute:
    • FDA
    • Joint Expert Committee on Food Additives
    • United Nations Food & Agriculture Organization
    • European Food Safety Authority
    • World Health Organization
    Maybe that will change some day just like people in the 30's thought that smoking cigarettes were good for you... who knows. But in the meantime we know with absolute certainty that sugar is bad for us, so I'll take the "probably harmless" option over the "definitely bad" option. As for the taste of aspartame I think some people are more sensitive to it. But for me it's almost the opposite now, regular soda tastes way, way too sugary and I nearly can't drink it.

    If you want a tip for an inexpensive meal drink without any sugar or sweetener I like water with ice cubes and a few splashes of bottled lime. It's quite healthy, has some cleansing properties and also aids digestion. Might take a couple of weeks to get used to the taste of it if you're used to sugary or sweetened stuff but once you do you'll realize it's much better for you.
     
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    crazychile Eastern Iowa's Spiciest Pepper

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    I'm glad that all this stuff about Aspartame has finally gone somewhat mainstream. Twenty years ago when it was mentioned, it instantly got thrown into kooky conspiracy theory territory. After all, the FDA approved it, it MUST be safe. Maybe in another 10-20 years, people will start making the connection between GMO food and various health issues.
     
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    Taverius Smells like sausages

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    Food since man first selected a plant cultivar is GMO.

    Crude, hacksaw GMO, but GMO nonetheless. Where do you draw the line?
     
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    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    When scientists put spider DNA in tomatoes :)
     
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    For some reason aspartame etc don't taste sweet to me, at least not in a sense that they can replace the taste of sugar. Plus they have a chemical taste, for lack of a better word.
    I would take natural sugar any day. Sugar is only bad without self constraint, as is most anything else in this world.
     
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  12. David De Lucena

    David De Lucena Science Nut

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    I do have some friends that are PhD in genetics that talks exactly that. Genetically modified food will cause problems. Wait and see.
     
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    GMO crops and food is fundamentally scary, we're messing with 3.5 billion years of evolution because some geneticist here today now think they know what they're doing. Probably the very definition of hybris.
     
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    I'm no expert, but this seems kinda biased. The graphs are rather heavy/confusing to read.
    Its also just in vitro and e.coli.

    The study is thus only done on bacteria that have been largely isolated from the host, giving an insight into possible mechanisms. We know that must stuff affects bacteries, when such methods are used. So... Id take that article with a grain of salt, just like most.
     
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    Double post..
     
  16. David De Lucena

    David De Lucena Science Nut

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    There is a large and growing mass of articles in this subject. This one was just a sample.
    About the methods... this article was chosen due its pristine methodological choices and respectful group of scientists in the field that conducted the study.
     
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