Health Advices and Longevity

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  1. jowls

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    Can you please expand on this?
     
  2. drgumbybrain

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    There are articles saying that medical students are in a high risk class to depression, psychotic disorder and substance abuse. Between 20-35 years, men in general are in the most dangerous age to develop the same disorders. So, avoiding this substances will prevent some problems for most people.
     
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    Interesting. I have worked in emergency services for 15 years. Empirically, alcohol seems a magnitude more dangerous, especially to those between 20-35 years and/or male. I have never been called to someone harmed by mushrooms, even though I know that they are being consumed in our country. Occasionally DMT, LSD, marijuana etc. More frequently MDMA and ketamine. Even more frequently cocaine and amphetamine.

    Alcohol... almost every night :piratemug:

    Edit: I forgot opiates. Up until recently I worked in the red light district. 10 years ago I would go to multiple heroin overdoses per shift, with a death every fortnight or so. I recent years, only 1 or 2 overdoses a week. Harm minimisation strategies seem to work. I am far more likely to go to overdose/death via prescribed opiates these days...
     
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  4. drgumbybrain

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    You are right. Alcohol it’s the worse specially when you look the bigger picture. But for a first psychotic episode, the more common causes are cannabis, LSD, DMT and psilocibina.
     
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    The mechanism of these drugs as a catalyst is interesting. I also come across people in this age bracket presenting in first acute psychosis due to regular life stressors; school, work, relationships etc. I am in no way scholarly in such subjects though, mere observation.

    Chicken or egg question ;)
     
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    Psilocybin is the thing in magic shrooms, btw.

    I'm honestly kinda intrigued by the DMT. I'd be too scared to ever try it I think, though.
     
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    I have a friend who's a doctor and he's confessed to being a borderline alcoholic, maybe full on alcoholic. Very clever guy. When I asked *why* his response was basically "well imagine that you had access to +100% proof alcohol every hour and day of the week free of charge and no one cared". Yeah... I can see that.

    I also know a couple of nurses and getting any kind of narcotics would be childs play for them if they wanted. There are checks and balances in the system but they're all dependent on the nurses being honest. 99% of them are... a few not so much.
     
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    I can’t really imagine getting addicted to shrooms or LSD. With that said, the experience can be overwhelming and people with tendencies towards mental illness could make them worse.

    Thanks for the advice @David De Lucena ! As you said, armodafinil is a very short term strategy. It does work, but it made me neglect the symptoms and causes, hence everything got worse.

    I'm considering seeing a therapist, so we can work out a sustainable work/life balance strategy and maybe get me on some happy pills. I'm pretty sure I had depression about 5 years ago which I self medicated with excessive eating. The depression went away but the unhealthy eating habit stayed, so I need to shake away that too.
     
  9. drgumbybrain

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    Did forget to mention that high doses of omega3 fat acids (2-4g) per day and high doses of B12, B9 and calciferol could help. If your kidneys are working, go for it.
     
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    Sucralose Could Be a Danger to Our Health

    Well, i have been reading about sucralose for a couple of years now...
    For me, there is now doubt in my mind that sugar in its pure form its a drug, so it must be avoided. Sucralose seemed to be a good choice, but now.... im changing my mind.
    When splenda was released, they told us that sucralose was safe because it HAS NO metabolics in our bodies, and pass in the guts and liver with no molecule changes.
    Well, a new study just find that this info was a big derp... It seems sucralose has several metabolites, and they accumulates in our fat tissue for several days. Man, this is bad!!!
    "We found two metabolites in urine and feces throughout the sucralose dosing period," Schiffman says. "Those metabolites could still be detected in the urine 11 days after we stopped giving the rats sucralose, and six days after the sucralose itself could no longer be detected. That's particularly interesting, given that the metabolism studies that the FDA's approval were based on reported that ingested sucralose was not metabolized."
    The doctor continues:
    "Based on previous studies, we know that sucralose can be passed on by nursing mothers in their breastmilk," Schiffman says. "And, among other findings, we know that sucralose can reduce the abundance of beneficial bacteria in the gut. Our new study shows that sucralose is also creating metabolites whose potential health effects we know little or nothing about.
    "As a result, we feel that it may be time to revisit the safety and regulatory status of sucralose," Schiffman says.
    The paper, "Intestinal Metabolism and Bioaccumulation of Sucralose In Adipose Tissue In The Rat," is published in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, Part A.
     
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    I would like to see a large study on humans, as what happens in rats does not always happen in humans the same way. Not exactly scientific, but as a biologist and chemistry teacher, the replacement of hydrogen atoms with chlorine on the sucrose molecule with no side effects seemed like too much of a good thing to be true.
    I’m always wary of artificial molecules being ingested on a daily basis without some side effects. Medications always have side effects because they are artificial compounds that shift the chemistry of the body. Always the benefits vs. risk deal. ‘side effects may include risk of sudden death’ . Interesting results as if I recall sucralose had years of safety studies before it was approved for sale. I don’t use it. A small amount of sugar in my coffee I’m willing to risk. Thanks for the information as always @David De Lucena.
     
  12. drgumbybrain

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    I do not trust any of those sweetners!
    Maybe I’m just paranoid.... but....

    look this study attached

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/mzzd4tij4ir4fqt/crz2018.pdf?dl=0
     
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    @David De Lucena. Thanks for the article. I only had time to read the abstract. Reminds me to eat real food as much as possible. I’ll dig into the rest of it this weekend.
     
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    I don't eat any sugar and i eat very little carbs because they get turned into glucose by the body. When i do eat suger or too many carbs i feel like shit for a couple of hours. The rest day i have lower energy, the only cure to feel better then is a workout.
    Don't trust those sweeteners at all and as for sugar your body can make all the glucose it needs on its own. To me 85% chocolate is too sweet now, can you imagine how much the sugar addiction has altered our taste palette?
     
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    Salt...

    It's not that I don't eat salt: of course I eat salt. I eat restaurant food, I eat food cooked for me by others, I eat salted butter, I even have a small dish of potato crisps (chips in American) with my lunch. But salt added to food on my plate? Absolutely never (plus or minus 0.001% ;)).

    During my London sojourn this year, my wonderful hostess cooked me many wonderful meals, and made me generally wonderfully over-fed. On one occasion, though, she sprinkled salt on my meal. I assume that, to her, it was a small amount. Amazing: it did something horrible to my tongue! I could still feel it a day later!

    Absence of raw salt in such doses (for three or four decades) has certainly changed my taste palette. I'm happy to keep it that way!
     
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    Agreed. I get all the sugar and salt I need from my food. I never add them manually into anything, including coffee. Almost no carbonated drinks or those fake juices too.

    I notice many people around me like "tasty" food or drink. I am fine with the original flavor of the dish. Potato is potato. Beef is beef.

    Problem is....I love carbs :(
     
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    Interesting, personally i'm ok with the taste of salt but i have to add it to my diet. Doing the keto thing has increased my metabolism and as such i need more minerals like salt and magnesium. If i don't then i get nauseous and feel a bit weak, especially a couple hours after a workout.
     
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    If you're avoiding processed foods, then you most likely need to add some salt to your diet. Salt isn't the enemy its made out to be. High salt intake was just a symptom to the larger problem of over eating processed foods with ingredients you can't pronounce.
     
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    Yeah and they blamed fat for the problems sugar caused, unfortunately people keep parroting each other and then there is sponsored research to keep the status quo intact.
     
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    I have high blood pressure, but my naturopathic doc told me this about salt when I asked if I needed to cut back:
    1. Himalayan pink sea salt has the best mineral content and is absolutely fine.
    2. Try to avoid the iodized salt (and this is what's in most of the processed foods)
    3. Drink lots of water
     

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